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What if you were in charge of GM?

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Re: One more reason they failed... [vinnyny] by imidazol97
Oct 17, 2009 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Oct 17, 2009 6:04 am)

>1) American cars should be MADE IN AMERICA if you want to capture patriotic buyers; 2) I'll pay more for a truly American car, but not 10-15% more; 3) When I'm paying more for my American car, I don't want to give up content or quality (so lose the Rubbermaid interiors).
 
Please contact the UAW to give them your views. They are the ones who caused the prices to be so high and cost-cutting measures. AND they have been protected from major loss of over-priced labor by the current administration in the GM settlement when they could have been ousted.
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Re: One more reason they failed... [imidazol97] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 17, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 17, 2009 6:16 am)

Really? Did we just find GM execs tied up in a broom closet these last 30 years?
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Re: What if you were in charge of GM? [ehaase] by ggeeoo
Oct 17, 2009 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: ehaase (Nov 02, 2008 8:00 am)

Look at the new lLincoln C car now give me that interior and clean diesel hybrid
under the hood. I would pay 39,000.00 for that!
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Re: One more reason they failed... [imidazol97] by vinnyny
Oct 17, 2009 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 17, 2009 6:16 am)

I'm with you--the UAW shares much of the blame. The Obama administration perpetuated the problem. But let's not forget the Clinton administration--they brought us the joys of NAFTA.
 
The UAW would only laugh at my views because it's immaterial to them. Their only concern is signing up more sheep and they don't care a lick if they have to violate the Constitution to do it (Card Check).
 
The UAW's, ACORN's, and Al Gore's of the world are sucking this country dry and will destroy it in time. The well is only so deep and it's almost dry. A country that MAKES nothing IS nothing.
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Re: One more reason they failed... [Mr_Shiftright] by vinnyny
Oct 17, 2009 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 17, 2009 9:35 am)

They may not have been tied up in a closet, but they were certainly bound up by the UAW. Few companies can afford to get shut down for months at a time while their workers are on strike--the Big Three are no exceptions. When there was little foreign competition, US makers could afford such largesse. Toyota and Honda put an end to that...
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Re: One more reason they failed... [Mr_Shiftright] by imidazol97
Oct 18, 2009 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 17, 2009 9:35 am)

>GM execs tied up in a broom closet
 
And those broom jobs paid them very handsomely through the years!
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Re: One more reason they failed... [vinnyny] by fintail
Oct 18, 2009 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: vinnyny (Oct 17, 2009 7:51 pm)

So the UAW forced 30 years of undesirable cars and hilariously poor longterm planning (which is an epidemic in American business as a whole)? Interesting.
 
I guess it's all because of a union and the two previous donkey regimes - executive leadership and the elephants who opened China and later elephant regimes have no part in any problems, never have, never will. Very convenient.
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Re: One more reason they failed... [imidazol97] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 18, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 18, 2009 6:32 am)

It's not only scapegoats who make a very good wage at GM
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Re: One more reason they failed... [Mr_Shiftright] by imidazol97
Oct 18, 2009 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 18, 2009 8:48 am)

The techniques, if history serves me right, is that the union would threaten to strike one company only. So if the most successful company of the three were, say GM, then GM either had to give it partially to the UAW's demands or face a months long strike where the others would be selling cars to GM's customers who couldn't get GM cars. Because the threat was only against one automaker at a time, there was no winning.
 
The technique should have been that all three automakers were going to work together and if struck at one, all would close until settlement. Of course the government anti-collusion law would be cited and the automakers forced to break up their collusion.
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Re: One more reason they failed... [imidazol97] by vinnyny
Oct 18, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 18, 2009 4:23 pm)

I don't know why the domestic automakers didn't declare bankruptcy a decade ago. They could have dumped the unions and all the unfunded pension liabilites that have strapped them for so long--especially after the feds agreed to pick up some of the pension liabilities.

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