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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 30, 2009 3:57 pm) Have you comparison shopped mattresses? Look at buying computers for the home. All kinds of combinations of CPUs, memory, motherboard speeds and capabilities, drives, et al. It's impossible to compare real quality and value from brand to brand. And then there are the closeout, reduced prices on the computers but those are models that may be 2 months old and aren't the latest and greatest in the eyes of the afficianados, therefore they have slightly reduced pricing and are actually much better values than the latest and greatest. But this is really sounding like car buying, isn't it. |
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Replying to: fezo (Jun 30, 2009 4:01 pm) I put leasing in there with all the shenanigans of funny paper Wall Street folks think of to trade and get people to lose their money on. I don't trust it and never will lease. Father-in-law leased 3 cars for 2 years each on the premise that they would be under warranty if anything went wrong. I kept telling him he'd be better off buying them and selling or trading them with 12,000 on them after 2 years. Finally he quit leasing.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 30, 2009 4:07 pm) A friend of mine does the buying new every couple of years (it's actually at a pre-determined mileage). He makes out better doing it this way and has the option, which he's actually using at this moment, of deciding to hang on to the car an extra few months or more if he wants or needs to. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 30, 2009 4:05 pm) Bingo - at least you compare Intel and AMD chips pretty easily. Mattresses are impossible. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 30, 2009 4:05 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 30, 2009 5:59 pm) GM dealers don't do this any more than other dealers. I just bought a new car Saturday and found the process easier than the last several I had bought at a dealership I liked in a small town. But this was even nicer. I almost wanted to go back Monday and buy another. The only obfuscation is typical and that is trying to pass the documentation fee off as required and different than the ORC says (Ohio Revised Code). It's a maximum of $250 and not required; in fact the wording sounds like it is for payment contracts (I was paying cash). But the auto dealers' lobby will never allow that to be controlled. The salesman presented it late as a temp plate fee and title fee all bundled.
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You want to talk pricing shenanigans... I saw an ad for the new Ford 150, 4X4, crew cab, most of the 'goodies' at $279.00, but just at the bottom of the ad, in VERY small print was the notice that the $279 is a biweekly payment. In other words, your payment is actually $558.00 per month. Talk about misleading. And the dealers wonder why the general public hate dealing with them. As for GM, if I was in charge, I would shut it down now and save taxpayers in many countries the pain of watching all their tax dollars being wasted on stupidity.
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| ...and such, I just buy it outright and be done with it. | |
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Replying to: canadiantoyota (Jul 01, 2009 4:04 am) |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 30, 2009 6:07 pm) What did you buy? i bought a used car 2-3 weeks ago. The dealership recently changed names and instituted a "salesman-free" zone and other policies to make the car buying experience less threatening. Looked good. I hope it works. the documentation fees were around $170 but they were spelled out. A little higher than if you did it yourself but they do need to pay someone to complete all the paperwork and make sure it gets to the right places. Plus there is the convenience factor. |
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