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Replying to: fintail (Jun 29, 2009 6:22 pm) And a car like the CTS can change that image. You also bring up a good point.....sweetheart lease deals. That's how the Germans get people into their cars, while GM uses incentives. Either way, they are getting the payment down to something (relatively) affordable, and that is what seals the deal.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jun 29, 2009 6:37 pm) The CTS is indeed the car that can change that image, but the marketing and pricing strategy isn't perfect yet. I remember seeing loaded 50K CTS at my local dealer too...a lot of car, but it's going to be tough making a conquest sale at that level.
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Jun 29, 2009 6:15 pm) 
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 29, 2009 7:15 pm) And as the original poster stated, it's hard to justify spending $50K for a vehicle when you have essentially the same vehicle that is a year older (or less) sitting next to it for roughly HALF the price. Add to that it's bigger brother selling for less cash, again only a year or slightly less older. What message does that send to a potential buyer? Having driven and spent considerable time in a CTS, no way would I pay $50K for one; heck I wouldn't pay $40K. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jun 29, 2009 6:37 pm) The problem is that lease costs are a function of depreciation, and a GM car which is much cheaper is likely to cost as much on lease. Why lease a GM for $x when you can lease a German or Japanese car worth $10K more for the same $x? GM is cheaper in cost to procure which is why they have sales deals. They are more expensive in depreciation which is why it is so tough for them to have sweetheart leases.
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Replying to: tlong (Jun 30, 2009 1:58 pm) Just TRY and interpret a lease agreement in every detail. It's easier to buy a house.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 30, 2009 3:57 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Jun 30, 2009 4:01 pm) |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 30, 2009 3:57 pm) Have you comparison shopped mattresses? Look at buying computers for the home. All kinds of combinations of CPUs, memory, motherboard speeds and capabilities, drives, et al. It's impossible to compare real quality and value from brand to brand. And then there are the closeout, reduced prices on the computers but those are models that may be 2 months old and aren't the latest and greatest in the eyes of the afficianados, therefore they have slightly reduced pricing and are actually much better values than the latest and greatest. But this is really sounding like car buying, isn't it. |
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Replying to: fezo (Jun 30, 2009 4:01 pm) I put leasing in there with all the shenanigans of funny paper Wall Street folks think of to trade and get people to lose their money on. I don't trust it and never will lease. Father-in-law leased 3 cars for 2 years each on the premise that they would be under warranty if anything went wrong. I kept telling him he'd be better off buying them and selling or trading them with 12,000 on them after 2 years. Finally he quit leasing.
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