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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jun 28, 2009 7:02 am) Good point, I hate the whole negotiation thing for a car. I used to sell cars many years ago and I never felt good about it. Doing a good job meant basically conning a customer and that never sit with me, I left the business 6 months later. Cars should be sold just like any other appliance a set price, that a "store" may be willing to match of undercut, if the exact same model were advertized cheaper I know some people get thier jollies going to a dealership and giving them a hard time over 50 bucks, but me I have better things to do than sit there for hours arguing about a price. My approach to car buying is very simple, I do my homework, check the invoice, check the holdback, work a figure which gives 500-1000 (depending on the car) to the dealer, I go in with the figure on a sheet of paper, hand it to the sales person, and say "this is my number, I only want to hear yay or nay, nothing else, if you try counter-offering, I bid you good day and find another dealer to do business with, If you have to go to the manager, that is fine, you have 10 minutes, and then I am leaving, I reinterate, no counteroffers, no BS, give one of the 2 responses, if it is yay I will give you a deposit right now and a check first thing in the AM for the rest end of story." |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 29, 2009 5:38 am) Not to mention, all the luxury competitors in this price class can be optioned to at least $48,000. Both the C class and 3 series are far smaller than the CTS. The CTS gets by on 87 octane, the others take "hi-test" |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jun 28, 2009 6:58 am)
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Replying to: eka1 (Jun 29, 2009 2:51 pm) If you consider the Panama-Colombia border to be the dividing line between North and South America, there are 23 countries in North America. Some people think that Mexico's border with Guatemala and Belize is the start of Central America but I think the geographers consider Central America a subset of North America. |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jun 29, 2009 6:49 am) They advertise on the tv in my area. For example, new 2009 Malibu advertised for 14,900. New Fusion for 14,900. New Cobalt for 12,900. New F-150 for 12,900. So only those without tv don't know this. There are catches when you go in. My 14,900 Malibu became 18,700 when I went to the dealer. There was $2000 for having a current GM lease that I couldn't get. There was the dest charge and there were options. Then there was about $700 of Lie in the equation. It was still a good deal. My GM card earnings would have me at 15,115 plus tax with no trade that day. About the price of a stripped '07 Civic with 20,000 miles on it. Since then, one dealer has offered better once, but incentives are falling and tomorrow they may fall again. From the best deal I was offered, the car is up by 1250 as of today. With Accords being offered at 3124 off sticker, you can make the same argument about Honda's pricing. It takes 3124 off the base accord to get down to 18,366 plus tax, so I am still ahead by most of my GM card earnings to go with Malibu at 18,900-GM card =15,400. Not sure the honda includes dest. charge at 18,366. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jun 29, 2009 1:31 pm) If one is going to spend 40-50K and cry about premium fuel, they can't truly afford the car to begin with Can GM prices ever be mentioned without some big incentive scheme? Loyalty this, employee pricing that. If I was in charge of GM I'd dump all of that garbage. Just price the things. |
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 29, 2009 5:16 pm) When the sleek Mercedes was relatively new, I saw an SLK-55 at the local Swifty gas station and the driver was putting in his own fuel. Really looked out-of-place. In this area Swifty is a chain with a reputation for buying junk fuel. That reputation may or may not be deserved today, but I rarely have bought at their station even if pricing is substantially lower than others in area because of it. I certainly wouldn't feed my Mercedes there. |
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 29, 2009 5:16 pm) When the sleek Mercedes was relatively new, I saw an CLK-55 at the local Swifty gas station and the driver was putting in his own fuel. Really looked out-of-place. In this area Swifty is a chain with a reputation for buying junk fuel. That reputation may or may not be deserved today, but I rarely have bought at their station even if pricing is substantially lower than others in area because of it. I certainly wouldn't feed my Mercedes there.
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