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What if you were in charge of GM?

874 messages,  Last post on Oct 28, 2009 at 10:20 AM

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Re: Radical Idea [sclarkemeister] by colloquor
Jun 26, 2009 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: sclarkemeister (Jun 25, 2009 5:42 pm)

They should also ban Dex-Cool as the anti-freeze/coolant used in GM vehicles, and use only G-05 type coolant (analogous to the Mercedes-Benz formulation). If you have aluminum alloy parts in your engine, and most engines are either totally aluminum-based now - or at the very least the cylinder heads - you want to use G-05 phosphate-free coolant. Take a look at any aluminum part, even the thermostat housing on an engine using Dex-Cool, or the old Prestone "Green Stuff." If you see a white oxide build up around the thermostat, you've got a problem.
 
Dex-Cool is most likely the cause of your head gasket failure, as well as many other documented cooling system failures in GM engines.
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Re: Revamping GM part 2 [imidazol97] by dtownfb
Jun 26, 2009 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 23, 2009 5:32 pm)

Nope! I was only interested in Buick sales as a whole not individual models. The fact that GM consciously reduced the number of vehicles in the Buick lineup is even more telling that they felt there was too little difference between the Century, LeSabre, Regal, Park Avenue, etc.
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Re: Revamping GM part 2 [cooterbfd] by dtownfb
Jun 26, 2009 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jun 24, 2009 1:26 pm)

By reducing Buick's models, they also reduced their visibility in the public's eye. I don't think Buick is going to ever reach 400k sales again. 200k is a stretch unless they dump a bunch into the rentals.
 
As was mentioned by another member, GM makes money in every market except the North American market. NO reason GM can't continue to sell Buicks in China. It's not like they have the same Buicks as we do.
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Re: Revamping GM part 2 [dtownfb] by lemko
Jun 26, 2009 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jun 26, 2009 9:39 am)

I dunno. If the North American Buicks were as lavish as the Chinese ones, I think Buick would have a very strong presence. I saw pictures of what a Chinese LaCrosse looks like. Who the heck needs a Cadillac? The Chinese LaCrosse would shame a Lexus.
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Re: Must be best or else [colloquor] by dtownfb
Jun 26, 2009 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: colloquor (Jun 25, 2009 5:05 am)

I've rented a few Saturn Aura which are the paternal twin to the Malibu. I was very disappointed with the fuel mileage. I expected better fuel economy from the 6 speed auto. It drove nice on the highway but reminded you it was a 4 cylinder in town with a bunch of excessive shifting and throttle lag. to be honest, most midsize, 4 cylinder cars behave this way driving around town.
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Re: Revamping GM part 2 [lemko] by dtownfb
Jun 26, 2009 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 26, 2009 9:43 am)

I asked this question a while ago (probably two years) when the D3 were beginning to have their problems and were contemplating bringing their overseas cars here to the US.
 
Why are the better cars for GM (and Ford) built for the overseas markets and not for the US?
 
Those Buicks should be here in the US
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If I was in charge of GM.... by michaell
Jun 26, 2009 (10:48 am)
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I wouldn't partner with IKEA.
 
Something like this might happen:
 
See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com">
 
Some assembly required -- makes you wonder how many flat packs it would take to get something like that home.
 
Yes, I know that's a VW Golf that is disassembled in the above picture. I'm just sayin'.
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Re: Revamping GM part 2 [dtownfb] by bumpy
Jun 26, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jun 26, 2009 10:11 am)

Short answer: they're willing to pay for them.
 
Not-quite-so-short-answer: those really nice Buicks, Opels, etc. also come with a really nice price tag and come in configurations (size, powertrains) that the average American car buyer would demand a significant discount for as compensation. So, we're basically cheap %^#%^$%s, and get offered cheap %#%#^%$ cars.
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Re: Revamping GM part 2 [dtownfb] by TIMGT5
Jun 26, 2009 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jun 26, 2009 10:11 am)

Let me take a stab at your question if I may and it is more complicated than you think.
 
One thing that Europe does very well is maintain its highways and surface streets. Drive through Germany and you will not see the potholed, cratered roads that you see too frequently in America. The Autobahn for example is 3X thicker than any interstate in America and its surface is glass smooth.
 
The result is that companies like Audi, BMW, Mercedes, et al, can focus much more intensley on their vehicle's driving dynamics. Where as the D3 had to concentrate on islolation and a absorbatant ride. The American versions of the German iron are actually "dumbed down" for our roads. On the super smooth autobahn surfaces everything rides well, even normally stiff cars here feel like lincoln town cars there.
So any car with uncertainty in its motion, lack of body control, and float are rejected by European buyers.
 
Also with gas north of 5 bucks a gallon a premium is placed on fuel efficiency. So the Euro middle class go for high mileage, compact cars. Often compacts there are sold with a lot of luxury features that until recently just began appearing here (Leather, navi, power seats, high end stereos etc) in that class of car.
 
In order to compete in those markets GM, Ford and Chrysler have had to adapt and produce cars that were well engineered with a much higher level of perfomance than seen in NA. The European buyes are much more demanding about quality engineering and driving dynamics than your typical Americans, hence the greater emphaisis on quality and driving ability.
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Re: Revamping GM part 2 [TIMGT5] by colloquor
Jun 26, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: TIMGT5 (Jun 26, 2009 11:31 am)

This is an excellent post. You are spot on as to the European highways and surface streets. Theirs' put our roads to shame, with the possible exception of some of the roadways in France - hence the long suspension travel in most French vehicles.
 
Although the USA is currently the only superpower in the world, some aspects of our country are trending toward 3rd world status.

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