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Automotive News & Views What if you were in charge of GM?
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Replying to: TIMGT5 (Jun 25, 2009 5:49 am) Let's be frank: there are Honda fanboys, Toyota fanboys, Mazda fanboys (raises hand) etc who do the same thing.  As for my friends Lemko and imidazol97] if you two fellows truly believe that the Hydramtic 4 speed and the 3.8 pushrod engine are the pinnicle of human automotive engineering achievement, that GM cannot possibly improve its cars performance in any meaningful way, well I am not going to try to convince you otherwise. Lemko understands reality, he just hates it, and misses his old Buicks. Personally, I think if he's feeling nostalgic, he should try a Mercury Grand Marquis and he'll feel right at home in his couch...er, car. I don't know what's up with imidazol97, maybe he just loves GM. They HAVE built some good products, after all; the problem is that they've built a lot more BAD ones recently, and some really don't like to admit to that (including, unfortunately, GM itself). Hey, at least 62vette isn't around anymore. Poor guy.
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Replying to: TIMGT5 (Jun 25, 2009 5:49 am) |
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jun 25, 2009 6:00 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 25, 2009 6:04 am) ROTFLMAO! I knew it!
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Replying to: TIMGT5 (Jun 25, 2009 5:49 am) The magazine people actually laugh when they are accused of "bias" or "taking bribes". Most of them are eager to see a domestic product trounce an expensive import because it makes great copy and guarantees a strong response. It just doesn't happen very often. I totally agree with a previous poster, that the Japanese "edge" is really about "doing their homework". The Japanese have rarely (just once in a while) released a new model prematurely, with bugs. They usually "get it right the first time out". GM seems to hire its customers to do the R&D for them.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 25, 2009 6:46 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 25, 2009 6:50 am) You remember how in the 1980s every US car had to be repainted in order to even sell in Japan (not that they sold very many, that's true). |
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Replying to: TIMGT5 (Jun 24, 2009 1:36 pm) Now that the compliment is out of the way I need to disagree with this comment: What are going to do in the future when Hydrogen Fuel Cars become the norm? I just don't see it. Hydrogen is a carrier of energy, not a fuel, as it does not exist pure in nature (at least on earth). To work on conversion you need an expensive infrastructure and that energy has to come from somewhere (fossil fuels, etc). Hydrogen also has low energy density relative to fossil fuels.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 25, 2009 4:09 am) Like Consumer Reports? They don't have an interest in race car driving, and have even given very good reviews to some GM vehicles. But they say that the cars that test well (CTS, Malibu, Acadia/etc.) have poor reliability and the cars that test more poorly in being up to date and refined have better reliability. GM has a ways to go and denying it won't save them. The market doesn't believe the products are there yet, certainly not enough to support even a 20% market share, which is why it has been declining for years. What we feel in this forum isn't going to change that.
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Replying to: tlong (Jun 25, 2009 10:37 am) In reality, perhaps there isn't much difference between a plain old iron pushrod engine under the hood, versus a shiny, alloy, twin-cam motor with fancy headers, but in "perception", one is more desirable to the buyer than the other. Many car buyers in America are just like car buyers everywhere--they want "the next new thing". I don't think GM has done a very good job of providing that.
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