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#51 of 874 Re: just strangle 'em [xrunner2] by tlong Nov 07, 2008 (6:25 pm)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 07, 2008 6:09 pm) But, what about legal entanglements with Saturn, Buick/Pontiac/GMC dealers? Apparently, GM cannot just kill a brand without serious legal implications.   You don't kill those brands, you just give their dealers rebadged Chevys, thus avoiding any complaints about GM not supplying them with product.
#52 of 874 Re: just strangle 'em [xrunner2] by fintail Nov 07, 2008 (6:55 pm)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 07, 2008 5:46 pm) The politics thread was locked up, remember?
#53 of 874 Re: just strangle 'em [tlong] by lemko Nov 08, 2008 (7:23 am)
Replying to: tlong (Nov 07, 2008 4:56 pm) I didn't say to copy them exactly. Notice I did say .../LS/... meaning I wanted Lexus reliability though I can't complain about my DTS' reliability so far.   To summarize: I want distinct Cadillac styling and character I want a level of luxury equal or surpassing that of the S-Class I want performance and handling equal or surpassing that of the 7-Series I want reliability equal or surpassing that of the Lexus LS460 Replies to this message: circlew (Nov 08, 2008 8:17 am) gagrice (Nov 08, 2008 10:47 am) circlew (Nov 08, 2008 11:27 am) lemko (Nov 10, 2008 6:25 am)
#54 of 874 Re: just strangle 'em [lemko] by circlew Nov 08, 2008 (8:17 am)
Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2008 7:23 am) And well you should! The new U.S. Auto industry entity will need to give you what you want!   Regards, OW
#55 of 874 Re: just strangle 'em [lemko] by gagrice Nov 08, 2008 (10:47 am)
Replying to: lemko (Nov 08, 2008 7:23 am) To summarize: I want distinct Cadillac styling and character I want a level of luxury equal or surpassing that of the S-Class I want performance and handling equal or surpassing that of the 7-Series I want reliability equal or surpassing that of the Lexus LS460   Are you willing to pay $15k to $30k more to get your wishes? The bottom of the line S550 is about $35,000 more than the Caddy DTS. Replies to this message: circlew (Nov 08, 2008 11:27 am) lemko (Nov 10, 2008 6:25 am)
#56 of 874 Re: just strangle 'em [gagrice] by circlew Nov 08, 2008 (11:27 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 08, 2008 10:47 am) Are you willing to pay $15k to $30k more to get your wishes? The bottom of the line S550 is about $35,000 more than the Caddy DTS.   the Challenge: Can the US make better cars for less?   The Genesis might not be better than the Merc S550 but I'll bet a new entity that arises out of the ashes of the current industry will be able to provide excellence once again. Right now, the DTS Perf. costs $60K...now all you need to do is beat the S-Class with a new design and premium parts.   Regards, OW Replies to this message: lemko (Nov 10, 2008 6:25 am)
#57 of 874 Re: just strangle 'em [circlew] by lemko Nov 10, 2008 (6:25 am)
Replying to: circlew (Nov 08, 2008 11:27 am) Actually, the quality of the parts aren't exactly as good as the S-Class, but they are getting there. They're definitely better than those in my 1994 Sedan DeVille and better than those in my 2002 Seville STS.   I think Cadillac should follow the same formula Lexus did. Offer S-Class quality with better reliability for less.   What kills the Genesis IMO is that it's called a HYUNDAI Genesis rather than just a "Genesis." The anonymous styling and that grotesque grille don't help. I don't think a "Toyota LS400" would have done as well. It might be well-regarded as was the Cressida, but nobody would take it as a serious luxury car.
#58 of 874 What if I were in charge of GM? by hpmctorque Nov 10, 2008 (5:20 pm)
I'm so, SO glad I'm not. Replies to this message: nippononly (Nov 10, 2008 5:25 pm) cooterbfd (Nov 10, 2008 5:36 pm) tlong (Nov 10, 2008 11:14 pm) anythngbutgm (Nov 11, 2008 4:56 am) xrunner2 (Nov 11, 2008 7:28 am) and 1 more... jae5 (Nov 11, 2008 11:11 am)
#59 of 874 Re: What if I were in charge of GM? [hpmctorque] by nippononly Nov 10, 2008 (5:25 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 10, 2008 5:20 pm) But to be fair, the guys that ARE have done the best anyone could expect with the shit sandwich they inherited..... Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Nov 10, 2008 5:36 pm) tlong (Nov 10, 2008 11:14 pm) anythngbutgm (Nov 11, 2008 4:56 am) xrunner2 (Nov 11, 2008 7:28 am) cooterbfd (Nov 11, 2008 7:36 am) jae5 (Nov 11, 2008 11:11 am)
#60 of 874 Re: What if I were in charge of GM? [nippononly] by cooterbfd Nov 10, 2008 (5:36 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Nov 10, 2008 5:25 pm) I'll second that.......   The new products coming out now are FAR better than what they were a decade ago. A lot of that credit should go to Lutz. It's too bad that "Dr. Z" was allowed to unravel alot of what he did for Chrysler.

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