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What if you were in charge of GM?

874 messages,  Last post on Oct 28, 2009 at 10:20 AM

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Re: here's the deal [Mr_Shiftright] by lemko
Feb 23, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 23, 2009 9:01 am)

But you're paying a lot more up front for the Lexus too. In the end it's a wash.
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Re: here's the deal [lemko] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 23, 2009 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 23, 2009 9:56 am)

Not if I'm reading the comparison chart correctly that someone just put up...it's a wash on MSRP between Enclave and RX
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Re: here's the deal [Mr_Shiftright] by lemko
Feb 23, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 23, 2009 9:57 am)

Yeah, but in the real world you don't ever pay MSRP for the Buick whereas you pay MSRP on the Lexus or you don't get it. I dunno. Things may be different in this tough economy. Maybe Lexus dealers aren't as arrogant as they once were.
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Re: here's the deal [lemko] by bpizzuti
Feb 23, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 23, 2009 10:05 am)

Yeah, but in the real world you don't ever pay MSRP for the Buick whereas you pay MSRP on the Lexus
 
You realize that's a bad thing for Buick, right? Means no one is willing to pay that much for it...which means Buick has to discount in order to get people to buy. Which means GM has a harder time making money.
 
If the Buick was that good, they could say "MSRP, take it or leave it" and people would take it.
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Re: here's the deal [bpizzuti] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 23, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Feb 23, 2009 10:21 am)

I think bpizzuti is right here. The Buick suffers depreciation at BOTH ends while the Lexus at neither end.
 
In other words, with the Buick, the factory suffers first, then the owner, but with Lexus the factory makes out first and the owner second, at resale time.
 
So the only "equal part" might be that both the Buick and Lexus owner get good service from their vehicles. There's a positive for both, should it prove true.
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What does GM have to compete with ... by kernick
Feb 23, 2009 (11:07 am)
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the Infiniti G37X? Notice I'm talking the AWD model. If I needed a vehicle that might be at the top of the wish-list.
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Re: What does GM have to compete with ... [kernick] by tjc78
Feb 23, 2009 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Feb 23, 2009 11:07 am)

I think the Cadillac CTS AWD would be a likely comparison.
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Re: here's the deal [Mr_Shiftright] by carnaught
Feb 23, 2009 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 23, 2009 9:57 am)

I'm sorry but except to some of us, the Buick name just doesn't connote anything great, only an old man's (Grampa's) car.
 
A small thing: does the Buick even give you real wood in the car as Lexus does?
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Re: here's the deal [Mr_Shiftright] by cooterbfd
Feb 23, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Feb 23, 2009 10:34 am)

If you look at the comparator I posted, what is the True Market Value mean? I notice that the Enclave is $5,000 more than the RX
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Re: here's the deal [cooterbfd] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 23, 2009 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 23, 2009 4:28 pm)

TMV is supposedly, through Edmunds statistics that they gather from sales, the price which most people are actually paying.

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