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What if you were in charge of GM?

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Re: Ouch! [TIMGT5] by dtownfb
Jan 06, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: TIMGT5 (Jan 06, 2009 2:19 am)

At the time, I thought Saturn was a great idea. GM had to start from scratch. No way they could have built the S-series at that time with union workers. Heck the UAW is the main reason Saturn returned to the regualr GM fold. Also not giving Saturn a second model for close to 11 years didn't help. Repeat buyers had to go elsewhere if they needed a larger car. AND they didn't improve the S-series for a number of years, making only cosmetic changes. Add this to limited dealership network and miniscule advertising budget.....
 
Again, not the way to run a company. No surprise Saturn is on the chopping block.
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Re: Ouch! [bpizzuti] by TIMGT5
Jan 07, 2009 (2:26 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 06, 2009 3:27 am)

Generally speaking the Colbalt rates mid pack in most comparison tests. It is not the worst compact on the market, but overall not in the same league as Civic, Mazda3 and Corolla. It is reasonably quiet (as long as you do not open the hood) and rides well. The handling is a bit lackluster and it only has a four speed automatic vs the Civic and 3's five speed auto units. A special XFE model gets 37mpg (EPA rating). The interior materials are not going to win any awards anytime soon.
 
The SS is a different beast altogether, with some 4-5K in engine and suspension upgrades it is a pretty fearsome little track car and recently won a car and driver comparo against the Caliber SRT, The Mazdaspeed 3 and the Civic Si. Mostly based on achieving better lap times on the road course they used.
 
The Caliber has about the worst looking interior I have ever seen on a modern car. The driving experiance is subpar as well. If anyone thinks this car drives well. Please throw it arround some curvy roads, then repeat the same exercise with a Mazda 3s Five Door. You will learn all you need to know about what works and does not work in an entry level car. The Mazda plays in a whole different league altogether.
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Re: Ouch! [TIMGT5] by bpizzuti
Jan 07, 2009 (3:18 am)
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Replying to: TIMGT5 (Jan 07, 2009 2:26 am)

At least the Caliber offers some uniqueness (Gadgety can cooler and drop-down speakers, hatch, AWD) versus the others, though it's underpowered and not very fuel-efficient (of course, it's really an SUV pretending to be a car). The Cobalt, on the other hand...well, at least it has an SS model I guess.
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Re: Ouch! [bpizzuti] by lemko
Jan 07, 2009 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 07, 2009 3:18 am)

Rather have an HHR than a Caliber.
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Re: Ouch! [TIMGT5] by dtownfb
Jan 07, 2009 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: TIMGT5 (Jan 07, 2009 2:26 am)

I rent from Enterprise about 4-5 times a month. After they put me in a Caliber for the third time, I told them that I would prefer not to have a car that feels like it is powered by a rubber band. They got the message and I haven't driven a Caliber in over a year.
 
And people wonder why no one is rushing to a Chrysler dealership to buy cars......
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Re: Ouch! [dtownfb] by lemko
Jan 07, 2009 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 07, 2009 7:23 am)

Calibers make great car bombs, or at least Santa-suited killer Bruce Pardo thought so.
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Re: Ouch! [dtownfb] by TIMGT5
Jan 08, 2009 (1:45 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 07, 2009 7:23 am)

The Colbalt, Caliber, and current Focus all illustrate one of the great achilles heals of the American auto industry. People often forget that the entry level car is the first chance that a company has to make a good impression and win a potential lifelong customer.
 
If someone tries your entry product and does not like it it, he or she will then go elsewhere when they are ready for something a little nicer. If on the other hand you make a high quality good driving econo box, then that favorable impression will translate into that customer looking at the rest of the lineup when they seek somethng more.
 
The Cavalier and the neon were awful cars. Ford almost had it right with the prior Focus but decided to cut costs and keep the current model on the old platform, the one that underpinned the old Mazda Protege. Meanwhile the newer version of the "C1" chasis sits under the far superior Europeon Focus, Volvo C30 and the curent Mazda3.
 
The 2009 Mazda3 is a five year platform that still can wipe the floor with the much newer Caliber, Colbalt and Focus in a comparison test anyday of the week. Unfortunatly for all of them Mazda is upgrading the car this year (2010) and that one is going to pack features that only a few years ago belonged on high end luxo cars and interior quality looks miles ahead of anything else in the economy class.
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Tim by fho2008
Jan 10, 2009 (4:16 am)
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Couldnt have said it better myself.
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GM by fho2008
Jan 10, 2009 (4:26 am)
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If I were in charge of GM.
 
 If....not gonna happen but if.
 
 Company jets.......sell em......we make cars dont we?
 
 Fire everyone in the styling department.
 
 Do what GM does best....V8
 
 Take the same engineers who made the latest V8 and have em make 2, 3, and 4 cyl engines.
 
 And give ME a truckload of cash................and I'm gone!
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If I Were Running GM by solara31
Jan 27, 2009 (1:39 pm)
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If I were in charge of GM, this is what I would have done.
 
1) Keep Chevrolet and Cadillac and dump the other brands. GM's market share only justifies having two active brands.
 
2) Eliminate all bonuses and stock options for executives. They make enough with just their salaries.
 
3) No more unions. The UAW can fight it by striking which would bankrupt the company and everyone would be out of work or they can accede and save jobs. Modern labor laws can protect these workers, but do away with ridiculous perks like job banks.

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