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Automotive News & Views What if you were in charge of GM?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 02, 2008 4:40 pm) Then, after much talk to the contrary, their only elimination of brands is to try and sell Saab (who is buying?), well or kill Saturn (getting warmer) and make Pontiac a niche brand. Pardon me for saying so but hasn't the market already done that? If Pontiac is a niche brand what the heck is Buick with three models? I'm getting confused... 
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:06 pm) |
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 5:06 pm) Not needed: any brand not named Chevy or Cadillac. When are they going to get this? Note that car company with the blue oval logo, which only has three core brands plus a Swede, and is doing mucho better than General Morons right now, with 6 brands plus a Swede? And that particular Swede sells nothing unique, so it's really 7? I guess I'd do nothing if I were in charge of GM...apparently I don't meet the job requirements: my IQ is higher than 5.
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Dec 02, 2008 6:48 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Dec 02, 2008 6:50 pm) 
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 02, 2008 4:40 pm) That's no more the final number than - the Big Dig in Boston originally costing $3B. All that is, is something GM thinks is palatable to get the ball rolling. Once they get this money committed, it is easier to come back and say "we just $10B more every 6 months because the economy hasn't turned around". It is much easier to ask for $18B and $10B and $10B ... rather than to come in and say "we're going to need $75B for the next 3 years, and we'll have a hell-of-a-time making any profit, to repay any of the loan". Check the history of the Big Dig or many other projects, and you'll see the "teaser amounts" given to get the project approved, and then how it snowballs from there. ABC actually carried a similar story last night, about the visitor center at the Capitol. That center would never have started (hopefully due to public outcry) if the real-cost had been told. We're a bunch of saps, or just powerless, to believe the costs we're presented when approving these projects. Even here you see proponents of giving the Big3 $25B and that will be enough. Well that $25B figure lasted what, 2 weeks, before it was revised - which way? UP. What a surprise!!! 
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...of GM as it is now. I also wouldn't want to be President as things are now.
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 03, 2008 7:49 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 03, 2008 7:58 am) That is where it belongs. He promised the Big 3 and the UAW he would fix the problem if they voted for him. Paybacks can be rough. Especially when you don't have a clue on how our economy works. I hope he has advisers that know what to do. I see another big Carter type recession looming. |
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If, as everyone believes, that Toyota has the correct business model, then here is how I'd restructure GM. I'd match Toyota model for model: Toyota = Chevrolet Yaris = Aveo Notes: Ick. Aveo, while priced right, really doesn't compete. I'd rather federalize the Corsa, convert a plant here in the states to build it, and be competitive. Corolla = Cruze Notes: With the right engines, this is quite possibly a shoot out. The 1.4L turbo engine has the possibility of being world-class in terms of power and efficiency. Matrix = Vibe Notes: A no-brainer, other than rebadging the Vibe as a Chevy. Same car, same plant, though I wonder how long Toyota will want to continue this partnership. Camry = Malibu Notes: As I see it, the Malibu is already as good as, if not better than, the Camry. Not much to do here. Solara = G6 Coupe Notes: A niche market. Improve the build quality of the G6, rebadge it as a Chevy and sell 20-30,000 per year. Same with the convertible version. Avalon = Impala Notes: Rebadge the Impala as a Caprice or, as an alternative, rebadge the current Buick Lucerne as a Chevrolet. Prius = Volt Notes: Figure out how to bring the Volt to market without having it cost $2-3 billion for development. Make it a unique body style - the current pictures of the Volt make it look like the Cruze. I think folks are starting to equate hybrids with 5-door hatchbacks (Prius, new Honda Insight). Venza = SRX Notes: Decontent and rebadge the SRX as a Chevy to compete. Tacoma = Colorado Notes: Update the powertrains and build quality in the Colorado to be competitive. Tundra = Silverado Notes: Nothing to do here; Silverado is already competitive. RAV4 = VUE Notes: Drop the Equinox and rebadge the VUE as a Chevrolet. Next iteration of the VUE needs to lose several hundred pounds. FJ Cruiser = H3 Notes: Like the Solara, a niche market. May not matter, as I believe the FJ is slated for extinction. Highlander = Traverse Notes: Not quite direct competitors, but close enough. 4Runner = ??? Notes: With the demise of the TrailBlazer, there really isn't a direct competitor available from GM. Should there be? Sequoia = Tahoe Notes: None; Tahoe is competitive. Land Cruiser = Suburban Notes: Again, not a direct match up, but could be established that the Suburban is the "ne plus ultra" of the SUV set. Sienna = none Notes: GM has abandoned the minivan market. Why not bring over a people-mover from the European market and try again? I need to think about the GM equivalents to Lexus (Buick or Cadillac) and Scion (Saturn?) and will post them later. |
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