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What if you were in charge of GM?

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Re: The New GM [boomchek] by carnaught
Dec 01, 2008 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Dec 01, 2008 1:52 pm)

"Summary of casualties:
Saab lineup
Pontiac lineup (except the Vibe)
GMC Light duty trucks
Buick Lacrosse
Saturn Outlook
Chevy Aveo
Chevy HHR
Chevy Equinox
Chevy Tahoe
Cadillac Escalade EXT
Cadillac XLR"
 
Your plan would have some merit if the company wasn't in such dire straits. Your vision is still too bloated of a company with too many unnecessary models and too much overlap/duplication, IMHO.
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Re: The New GM [carnaught] by boomchek
Dec 01, 2008 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Dec 01, 2008 2:38 pm)

You're right. My vision is still bloated, but it would be a decent start I think. I personally am a pack rat so it's hard for me getting rid of anything.
 
In addition to the streamlining of models, I'd also streamline the options and engine/tranny packages. I'd try to have each model available with one or two motors at most, and simple trim levels and packages, like Honda is doing. It would make ordering easier, production simpler, and less confusing for the customer.
 
I guess 2-3 years into the new plan I would start axing models as necessary based on sales figures, market demand, and trends.
 
If I'd have to go really extreme and cut even more, then I'd axe Buick as well (put it to sleep for now), and just leave a full Chevy, Caddy, and Saturn lineup as described in my original post.
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If I were in charge by dave8697
Dec 01, 2008 (4:08 pm)
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1. lobby gov't for loans
2. buy some car magazine publishing companies back from the current Japanese owners.
3. Figure out how to hold down the price of gas for the next 5 years
4. eliminate half of the 200 highest paid executives jobs in GM, worldwide.
5. negotiate a union contract that allows robots to eliminate jobs
6. negotiate to enforce a mandatory union retirement at 30 years
7. negotiate the elimination of pay to anybody not working an actual job, like jobs bank.
8. negotiate that union workers pay $3000 to $6000 a year for their family health and dental care insurance and co-pay like salary workers already do, including retirees.
9. lobby to get the gov't to buy all unused plants and real estate owned by GM but not being utilized
10. lobby to get gov't to have all buyers of new foreign cars (defined by company ownership) audited. (includes leasing and rentals)
11. lobby to get gov't to match funding for all R&D aimed at increasing fuel efficiency.
12. Get states to exempt D3 workers from state income tax, and collect that lost revenue from auto workers in foreign owned plants, equally divided among all of them.
13. lobby gov't to make it illegal to manufacture cars in America using parts purchased within the USA from non US owned companies, without paying auto import tarriffs.
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Re: If I were in charge [dave8697] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 01, 2008 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Dec 01, 2008 4:08 pm)

Dave has a point about oil companies---they really broke GMs back, and they showed NO MERCY.
 
So much for the "car company--oil company" conspiracies. They are more like two cats with tails tied together.
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Re: If I were in charge [Mr_Shiftright] by gagrice
Dec 01, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 01, 2008 4:57 pm)

oil companies---they really broke GMs back, and they showed NO MERCY.
 
You can lay that right on the backs of the hedge fund speculators like George Soros. He wanted to make W look bad and spent $millions to get his way. The Big 3 collapsing would be exactly what he would like to see. He and his ilk will come in and buy up the pieces for pennies on the dollar.
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Re: If I were in charge [dave8697] by bpizzuti
Dec 02, 2008 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Dec 01, 2008 4:08 pm)

1. Lobby...
2. Lobby...
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13. Lobby...

 
So in other words, your plan for GM is for them to keep doing what they've been doing all along?
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Re: If I were in charge [dave8697] by xrunner2
Dec 02, 2008 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Dec 01, 2008 4:08 pm)

9. lobby to get the gov't to buy all unused plants and real estate owned by GM but not being utilized
10. lobby to get gov't to have all buyers of new foreign cars (defined by company ownership) audited. (includes leasing and rentals)
12. Get states to exempt D3 workers from state income tax, and collect that lost revenue from auto workers in foreign owned plants, equally divided among all of them.

 
OK. I will jump in on this silliness.
 
On #9, lobby Congress to pass law that all owners of GM branded vehicles in the U.S. have to pony up $1,000 each to buy defunct GM plants and real estate. Any excess funds would just be given to GM to do with as it sees fit. Let the supporters of GM support "their" company. Owners would be found by doing 50 State DOT data base search. GM could have TV commercials touting how the ordinary U.S. citizens are patriotic and are helping an American icon and institution.
Wagoner would be the speaker and he would be standing in front of a Suburban and would have U.S. flags prominently displayed.
 
Any bailout of GM by Congress should have conditions:
 
On #12, require that State legislatures having GM plants to put on surcharge tax on difference in hourly wage of UAW worker and Honda/Toyota worker. If total package wage of U.S. GM worker is $73 and U.S. Toyota worker is $43, than a 20% surcharge tax should be levied on $30 and the surcharge receipts go to state education fund targetted at re-educating UAW workers.
 
On #10, might as well add in anyone who buys "any" product not made in the U.S. Those buyers of American brand vehicles who have "foreign" brand TVs, VCRS, DVD recorders/players, computers, printers, other electronics, cameras, microwave ovens, etc., would also be auditted.
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driving to the brink of ruin by steve_ HOST
Dec 02, 2008 (7:49 am)
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"Porsche executives savaged rival carmakers yesterday for driving the industry to the brink of ruin and accused banks of forcing sound component supplier companies out of business."
 
Porsche predicts hedge fund takeover of GM and/or Ford
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Re: If I were in charge [gagrice] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 02, 2008 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Dec 01, 2008 7:20 pm)

Nobody needs to help Washington to look bad. Hedge funds, derivatives (sold as insurance instead of as stock) , oil futures (not regulated like other commodities!!)---all these are the product of a complete lack of supervision and regulation. A idea or a practice is not dependent on who is thinking it or doing it for the idea to be good or bad. The sharks smelled blood because somebody dropped a three course meal in the water. Who did what is not the issue. The issue is how to stop repeating old mistakes.
 
I certainly don't want taxpayer monies used to fatten up the automakers for hedge fund managers.
 
I see where the Big Three are driving fuel-efficient cars to DC this time and leaving the jets behind.
 
Close barn door, horse gone.
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Re: driving to the brink of ruin [steve_] by nippononly
Dec 02, 2008 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 02, 2008 7:49 am)

Wiedeking makes good points. Add two to the list of reasons I am against the bailout.

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