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Honda Fit, Honda Civic, Hatchback, Sedan
#3 of 237 Re: Civic 5 Door [moparbad]
Apr 24, 2006 (7:13 am)
...and don't forget the 6-speed manual transmission standard along with 3 engine choices.
Of course the US (if it did get the Civic 5 door) would probably only get 1 engine and a 5-speed manual.
#4 of 237 Re: Civic 5 Door [hungarian83]
Apr 24, 2006 (11:03 am)
Pics of the European Civic I have seen are of the 3 door. If it came across looking as it does in europe, then no way in hell. I hate the full width headlight and the hatch back has that 'bubble' look sort of like the Hyundai Elantra hatch. I prefer more wagonish looking hatches like the Mazda 3, Kia Rio, or Honda Fit.
I do like the interior of the Civic hatch and I would absolutely love to have a 2.2 iCTD.
I have to say that I am fairly impressed by the Fit, it has been winning comparisons in a few different car mags. Too bad we didn't get the CVT-7 or the iDSI engines.
#5 of 237 Re: Civic 5 Door [claudius753]
Apr 24, 2006 (11:38 am)
It's the "bubble-butt-ness" of the Civic hatch that makes me even more thankful that I'm able to get the Fit in its current body. My fear is if I wait for the full model change that's due in the next couple of years, I'm not going to like what I see.
(But if I do, I can always hand down my 2007 to the wife, and get myself a new one!)
#6 of 237 Re: Civic 5 Door [claudius753]
Apr 24, 2006 (12:49 pm)
The Civic on the United Kingdom Honda site looks like a 3 door but the rear doors are "hidden". The door rear door handle in the the rear quarter panel. I agree the bubble back is "interesting" but would reserve comments when and if I ever get to see it in person.
#7 of 237 Re: Civic 5 Door [dewaltdakota]
Apr 24, 2006 (1:30 pm)
I think the 6-speed MT from the Civic hatchback would be nice in the Fit/Jazz, but I am much happier that I have the Fit, and not the new Civic 5-door (I did like the 7th generation 5-door though).
I am also particularly happy I have the 1st generation Fit. It will be interesting to see how the 2nd generation will look, but I didn't want to take the chance.
#8 of 237 Comparison with Civic
Apr 24, 2006 (2:43 pm)
As far as I know, this is not covered in one of the 1001 Fit sub-threads. I see the Fit being compared and cross-shopped with everything from Aveo to Mazda3 to Mini, but is the Civic a natural comparison also? Is anyone trying to decide between a Civic and a Fit? Their prices overlap. Aside from the hatch v. trunk issue, the Civic is almost as economical, offers slightly more passenger capacity, offers slightly more standard features, and I dare say, for most people in this segment, the 2 probably offer a similar driving experience. And brand and reliability considerations wouldn't even be issues to skew the comparison!
#9 of 237 Re: Comparison with Civic [bodble2]
Apr 24, 2006 (3:37 pm)
Yes, I am comparing the Fit and Civic with the Mazda3i sedan still a possibility. To get the features I want, I am comparing the Fit Sport manual with the Civic EX manual Sedan. No price overlap between those models though. I also considered the base Mini, but questionable reliability and the closest dealer being 100 miles away eliminated it.
#10 of 237 Re: Comparison with Civic [bamacar]
Apr 24, 2006 (3:42 pm)
Why not a Civic LX manual? Wouldn't that be closer to the Fit Sport in terms of equipment and price? In fact, in Canada there is a Civic DX-G model (no alloys) that would be less expensive than a Fit Sport.
FWIW, we've had our Mini for over 1 year now. Only "repair" required is a replace a burnt out interior dome light bulb! But of course, your mileage may vary.
#11 of 237 Re: Comparison with Civic [bodble2]
Apr 24, 2006 (3:55 pm)
On the Civic, I want the alloy wheels, the better stereo with auxiliary input, the split fold rear seat, and the exterior temp indicator. I would rather not have the moonroof, but the headroom was ok when I test drove it. I am one of those who wants a small fun economical car, but I don't want to give up the amenities to which I am accustomed.
#12 of 237 Re: Comparison with Civic [bodble2]
Apr 24, 2006 (4:14 pm)
If Car & Driver magazine is right, in terms of handling and acceleration, the Fit is more of a budget Civic Si hatchback than a budget Civic. If ever a car could be divided between "young" and "old," it's got to be the Fit and the Civic. The Civic actually HAS an older demographic; yet to be determined for the Fit. If I didn't have a family now, I'd buy a Fit just for its handling. Handling on the level that C & D raved about is hard to find on ANY sub $30k car, much less an entry level from Honda.
That having been said, the Civic is the more "responsible" and certainly the more main-stream purchase.
Keep in mind the Scion xA (with a form-factor similar to the Fit) is NOT the success story of the Scion line - it's the quirky xB (box). The xA was expected to be 80% of sales, the xB 20%, and instead those numbers were reversed. Which points out that, traditionally, small conventional gas saving vehicles don't sell well (unless dirt cheap with an enormous dealer network, like the Chevy Aveo).
Since the Scion was introduced in 2004, we've had a real continuing gas crisis, but my guess is still that the Fit will be a low volume car for Honda compared to the Civic and Accord (even the Civic has been dropping off in sales prior to the '06 redesign). Honda's recent decision to re-allocate production from the Fit to the Civic for North America says a lot about their sales expectations for the Fit.