Last post on Aug 16, 2010 at 6:20 AM
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BMW 3 Series, Sedan, Wagon
Nov 12, 2008 (4:30 am)
This is an easy solution. For all you guys that dont like the rough noisy go cart ride and there must be a bunch of you since there is over 2800 responses to the rft forum complaining about the ride of these cars and love to abuse yourselves, here is a solution: Dont buy the sport suspension!!!!! These cars already are sporty enough! And you will never need the extent to which these cars perform with the sport suspension unless you are on the track and I promise you, from reading in these forums you arent ever on the track. It kills me when guys are asking how good their deals are on the finance forum and all of them say "etc, etc, etc, sport suspension" like it is an automatic option everyone has to order. These cars are sports cars!!! They dont need the additional teeth chattering stiffness! I talk to a lot of guys who had 3's before and after the horrible rft era. They tell me that the ride of the sport suspension on the pre-rft era is equal to the ride of the non-sport WITH the rft's. There is that much difference in the ride of these tires. I had a 3 with a sport susp. pre-rft and it was a rough noisy ride. I plan to purchase as my next car a 3 without the sport then after about 5K miles switch the tires to a normal summer tire. I know it is exhausting. It just seems like BMW tries to make things as hard as possible to like them. Actually, I was even hopeful about the new TL and the Maxima being a competitor enough to consider them but I dont know. If enough of us changed brands BMW would be more "Japanese like" in trying to please us fans more rather than ramming these crummy ideas down our throats!
#12 of 17 addendum to my last message
Nov 12, 2008 (4:39 am)
By the way, I forgot to mention my current car is a Mercedes AMG E 63. It is the perfect combination of handling and luxury. The only thing about this car that I havent gotten used to yet is the lack of tossability. I think the weight of the car is close to 4000 lbs. and I miss the tossability of the 3. But it is the ONLY thing I miss with 520hp, 480 torque and the envious stares of other people.
#13 of 17 Re: rft problems [richardga73]
Nov 12, 2008 (10:47 am)
The E90 suspension tuning was already softened by the factory to compensate for the run-flats.
Don't cripple the dynamics of your 3-series from the get go by ordering the soft suspension. Just put normal tires on it.
If the BMW is still too stiff for you, then maybe a Buick or Mercedes is a better choice.
#14 of 17 Run Flats- Potenza's Wear
Aug 03, 2010 (11:18 am)
I purchased (2) rear potenza's RFT's in 9/09, and 9K miles later the tires are evenly wore and in need of replacement. I'm aware of the Class Action Suit against BMW and Bridgestone involving the Turanza's RFT's, however, the Potenza's also manufactured by Bridgestone were not included. Although, In my opinion, perhaps they should have been, or at least investigated for possible inclusion. it's not a coincidence that the issues in the Class Action Settlement which identifies excessive noise, irregular wear and needed replacement, which is exactly what I've experienced with the Potenza's. My tire dealership suggested that I contact my BMW service provider regarding the "Bushing". Is this really a tire issue and/or both a tire and suspension issue. This is my first 3 series 2006 330 and I will never purchase again. Since purchasing this CPO in 11/08; my first tire problem occurred in 12/08, with monthly intervals and trips to the BMW dealership for inspection and poor diagnostic. Through a mutual Tire Dealership, proper inspection and diagnostic was obtained and subsequent purchases of RFT's. Now all four, with most recent purchase yesterday (F/R), and a recommendation to replace the rears "AGAIN". Initially, I had to start replacing the original tires due to unusual wear or punctures after less than 6k miles from the original purchase date of the car. I live in California and drive on smooth surfaces. I'm ready to turn the car in. There's more to this than what's been said and done. I think the Class Action suit only touches the surface. Too many of us consumers are dealing with this issue and the inconvenience of having to resourcefully resolve it at our expense financially and emotionally. I'm a 56 yr old conservative female driver, who, obviously has taken her car in to the BMW dealership for service (tire problems)and and sometimes prematurely, and at regular service intervals, as recommended. I'm not a fault for this defect in technology by Bridgestone or BMW. Finally, I'm schedule to take the car in on Thursday, 8/5 as recommended by the service advsior to check the bushings. DOES ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS ON MY APPROACH REGARDING THE ISSUE WITH THE RFT'S AND THE BUSHINGS. THE CPO WARRANTY IS STILL GOOD AND THINK THE MFG'S WARRANTY IS TOO, BUT IN CASE IT ISN'T OR NOT COVERED BY THE CPO, I NEED A SOLID APPROACH SO I WON'T HAVE TO INCURR IN ADDITIONAL COST. I FEEL BMW SHOULD REPLACE THE (2) REARS NOT ME AT BEST.
#15 of 17 Re: Run Flats- Potenza's Wear [slcs1]
Aug 15, 2010 (6:52 am)
Unless you want to devote all your time to what (from my experience) will be a completely fruitless exercise, trade the thing in and buy something that drives and rides properly. I traded my beloved Lexus ES on a BMW 3 series and boy oh boy - watta mistaka to maka, as they say in the classics. To hell with European cars; always thought they were rubbish and now I've proven it. They are for 'badge buyers' only.
Toyota or Ford for me next time.
#16 of 17 Re: Run Flats- Potenza's Wear [bigkev]
Aug 16, 2010 (3:09 am)
It appears that you're wearing your bias on your sleeve, and said bias has spilled into your post as well. Like it or not, believe it or not, European cars in general and BMWs in particular offer driving dynamics that are occasionally equaled but rarely exceeded by cars produced in other parts of the world. Are European cars for everybody? Nope; and clearly they're not for you, but to make a blanket statement that "they are for badge buyers only" is just silly.
#17 of 17 Re: Run Flats- Potenza's Wear [shipo]
Aug 16, 2010 (6:20 am)
Fair comment - It's my fault.
Between us my wife and I have had 2 C Class Mercedes, both of which were very uncomfortable and riddled with electrical and computer faults, (13 times in 2 years) a new 2009 Audi A4 which spent more time in the shop than on the road due to steering rack problems (shudder) and continuously stalling and which got traded on the BMW, which I grant is good apart from the ride. Our only other experience was with a Peugeot that we bought as a second car (are they sold in the States? hope not !) 2007 new car, transmission packed up on the way home from the dealers. Gave us another new car. That one spent 15 weeks in the workshop over 9 months period with transmission, computer and oil leak problems. Peugeot took it back finally. I guess I'm too old for adventure now, wondering if it will start and go OK each morning. I just want a comfortable car that goes well, can be repaired by the dealer if necessary and doesn't cost an arm and a leg like the Chev and Fords, Dodges etc that I grew up with. You do have a point about the drivability I admit.