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Volkswagen Routan Prices Paid and Buying Experience

91 messages,  Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 8:16 PM

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What is this discussion about? Volkswagen Routan, Car Buying, Car Leasing, Van


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#43 of 91
Selling at loss? by krisofseattle
May 17, 2009 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: jatmobile (May 17, 2009 7:28 am)

Let's see... for an SEL, we have: rebate at 6K and profit at 2K or so, so the total cost to dealer is about 8K below the sticker, right? Normally i would not ask them to dip into their hold back as it barely covers the cost of doing business which i am happy to pay.
 
So if they sold it to me at $10,823 below the sticker, where is that extra $2,800 comes from? from the hold back? it seems a lot for a hold back. When i asked them, they were elusive, saying that they are passing on everything they get from Volkswagen.
 
Are they taking a loss? or is there something else we don't know about?
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Quote for SEL - Premium for $10,500 off MSRP by ifly3d
May 19, 2009 (9:29 pm)
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Quote for SEL - Premium for $10,500 off MSRP: good price?
 
Also, what are resell/reliability expectations of this vehicle? Hope for at/near Honda quality?
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Re: Quote for SEL - Premium for $10,500 off MSRP [ifly3d] by kyfdx HOST
May 20, 2009 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: ifly3d (May 19, 2009 9:29 pm)

The minivan is made by Chrysler... Expect similar reliability/quality.
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Re: Quote for SEL - Premium for $10,500 off MSRP [ifly3d] by krisofseattle
May 20, 2009 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: ifly3d (May 19, 2009 9:29 pm)

i think it's a pretty good price - about the same as what i paid for.
 
With $6,000 rebate, that's still $2,500 under invoice. i wonder how they make up for it.
Does anyone know?
 
When i asked a dealer, they say they take a loss, and i don't believe it.
 
My routan is doing fine so far...
 
Kris Q^iamthat.tk
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Re: Quote for SEL - Premium for $10,500 off MSRP [kyfdx] by krisofseattle
May 20, 2009 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 20, 2009 4:05 am)

With regard to reliability... here is my 2 cents...
 
Reliability appears to correlate with where it is BUILT, not where it was designed.
 
Take odyssey for instance, its reliability went to toilet since it was built in USA, instead of Japan.
 
i think all vans of all brand are now built in USA.
 
So, i would expect the reliability at par with all vans built in USA, and that includes the popular odyssey and sienna, T&C, etc.
#48 of 91
Re: Quote for SEL - Premium for $10,500 off MSRP [krisofseattle] by kyfdx HOST
May 20, 2009 (7:28 pm)
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Replying to: krisofseattle (May 20, 2009 12:15 pm)

Well... that's an interesting theory.. I'm not really up on Odyssey reliability... or Siennas, for that matter...
 
But, my point was... It's a virtual twin of the Chrysler minivan, made in the same Chrysler plant, by Chrysler.. That's why I said to expect similar quality/reliability.. to the Chrysler..
 
Seems like that's the obvious comparison... at least, to me..
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Blame the Brand by krisofseattle
May 20, 2009 (8:22 pm)
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i bought the van with a funny name because it's a Volkswagen.
 
And that is the primary reason.
 
I always admired German brands (even more so than the Japanese). I am a baby boomer and still have a sense of nostalgia over the old Volkswagen.
 
Sorry, but i don't have much faith in American engineering any more.
And i am an American engineer.
 
If the car starts to break down, i will get rid of it, and blame it on Volkswagen.
 
The badge gets the pride and the blame (both).
#50 of 91
Re: Blame the Brand [krisofseattle] by alman08
May 20, 2009 (9:03 pm)
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Replying to: krisofseattle (May 20, 2009 8:22 pm)

you don't have much faith in American engineering anymore but you just bought an American van with a VW badge on it. hmmmm... so the VW "designed" badge was that important... very very very interesting. Now I understand why my 4 year old nephew loves to wear his Superman Halloween costume.
I'm not bashing your purschase and I think the Routan is a great vehicle.
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Re: Blame the Brand [alman08] by krisofseattle
May 20, 2009 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: alman08 (May 20, 2009 9:03 pm)

Do you know any vans in American market that is 100% made in Japan or Germany?
 
Thanks for the humor...
#52 of 91
Not bashing your car... by kyfdx HOST
May 21, 2009 (6:03 am)
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It was just a response to the other member on comparing quality/reliability.
 
Heck... Chrysler practically invented the minivan.. I sure can't imagine VW re-badging an Asian competitor's van...
 
   I think they did a nice job with it.

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