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#12 of 15 Re: SUV [stevedebi] by gagrice

Feb 19, 2009 (2:53 pm)

Replying to: stevedebi (Jan 12, 2009 3:30 pm)
I nominate the Ford Escape Hybrid. My AWD gets about 30.5, and many FWD owners report 35 MPG. It is the most fuel efficient SUV on the planet
 
It may be the most fuel efficient Hybrid SUV on the planet. It is far from the most fuel efficient SUV. The VW Tiguan TDI sold in the EU has a combined 40MPG US. And highway rating of 44.4 MPG US. Most of the automakers sell diesel SUVs everywhere but here that will beat the hybrids hands down. I am sure Ford offers diesel SUVs that will easily top their hybrids.

#13 of 15 Re: SUV [gagrice] by stevedebi

Feb 19, 2009 (6:47 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 19, 2009 2:53 pm)
"I am sure Ford offers diesel SUVs that will easily top their hybrids. "
  
Not here in the states, the only Ford diesels are on the large pickups.
 
Are you sure that the 40 MPG wasn't Imperial gallons? What it is in L/100KM? I suspect that in US MPG it would be about 34, which is similar to the FWD FEH (though the Tiguan is AWD). That is not counting any EPA pollution equipment required for US emissions that might decrease MPG...
 
Also note that hypermilers are getting 38-40 MPG in the FEH, although I don't drive that way. You could attempt to make the point that this is special driving, but there is no way you could similarly drive a Tiguan diesel to 30% better than EPA MPG, no matter what tricks you might perform. I personally get about 10% over EPA on my AWD FEH.
 
Not to mention price. If you think $32K is high for an FEH (limited trim), try the Tiguan Diesel for 45K (base trim)!
 
Final note: I don't know about your area, but Diesel generally runs 75 cents to a full dollar more than regular unleaded gas here in LA.
 
I suspect that cost wise the FEH may come out ahead.

#14 of 15 Re: SUV [stevedebi] by gagrice

Feb 19, 2009 (10:57 pm)

Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 19, 2009 6:47 pm)
I suspect that in US MPG it would be about 34
 
NO it shows a combined 45.6 MPG Imperial. Which I calculated to 39.97 MPG US. It is the same engine in the Jetta selling in all 50 states with emissions for the upcoming EU standards. Ford has different names so not sure which is equal in size to the Escape.
 
Tiguan TDI

#15 of 15 Re: SUV [gagrice] by stevedebi

Mar 04, 2009 (1:16 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 19, 2009 10:57 pm)
"NO it shows a combined 45.6 MPG Imperial. Which I calculated to 39.97 MPG US. It is the same engine in the Jetta selling in all 50 states with emissions for the upcoming EU standards. Ford has different names so not sure which is equal in size to the Escape. "
 
Interesting. The Diesel CR-V is rated in the low 30's, IIRC. I think that is a 2.0 Liter engine.

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