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Hybrid Vehicle Maintenance, Repair and Concerns

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Re: Hybrid Vehicles Maintenance and Repair [jqtljr] by whitey9
Jun 07, 2009 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: jqtljr (Jun 07, 2009 1:54 pm)

I might have unloaded at 100K mi. When the extended warranty expired.
I plan on doing so on our Mariner hybrid, and the Prius too.
Time will tell. We will see.
I expect if your dealer/city deals with the battery responsibly it will be treated as it should be. Or it will be along the side of the road way out in the county.
As I said earlier, time will tell.
Best of luck!
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OTOH.... by kdhspyder
Jun 08, 2009 (6:05 am)
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I just passed 115,000 miles in 3-1/2 yrs without any problems that I didn't cause myself.
 
My friend is waiting for his third Prius in 2 weeks. His 2nd Prius just passed 245,000 miles with no problems whatsoever and he's still getting 50 mpg on a daily basis. He posts here from time to time as well.
 
I have heard that the HCH's have had more reliability problems than the Toyota's or Fords.
 
Regarding the battery issue you only have to do some simple research on the internetz to find out about the NiMH's. There is a whole thread here about it. They are non-toxic. They can be safely disassembled in your garage. You can look it up as they say. You're probably thinking that the NiMH batteries are similar to the lead-acid batteries in most other vehicles. They're not at all the same.
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Re: OTOH.... [kdhspyder] by gagrice
Jun 08, 2009 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 08, 2009 6:05 am)

I have heard that the HCH's have had more reliability problems than the Toyota's or Fords.
 
I agree that Honda has had more problems with their hybrid system as it neared end of life than Toyota. I am not a fan of the centrifugal clutch type transmission. OK for a snow machine. I want gears and positive drive.
 
I doubt I will ever own a vehicle with 115k miles on it. My truck I bought with 106K miles 3 years ago is just past 112K. I want my vehicles to last a long time. Hybrids are just not going to get it for 10 plus years in my opinion. Part of our throw away society.
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Re: OTOH.... [gagrice] by kdhspyder
Jun 09, 2009 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jun 08, 2009 7:30 am)

Well since the first ones delivered here are just reaching 8-1/2 years they are just reaching your magical 10 yr limit. Since the warranties in your state are at a minimum of 10 yrs / 150,000 miles there doesn't seem to be much risk of them not lasting 10 yrs or more.
 
More unnecessary issues to worry about. I drive one and I expect it to go 250,000 to 300,000 miles as have many already. Nothing to see here, time to move on.
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Re: OTOH.... [kdhspyder] by gagrice
Jun 09, 2009 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 09, 2009 4:32 am)

I expect it to go 250,000 to 300,000 miles as have many already. Nothing to see here, time to move on.
 
For you miles are everything. To me they are unimportant. Only longevity counts. There are many other parts beside the battery that are not warranted for 10 years. The reason I bought the Platinum Toyota 7 year 75k mile warranty for my Sequoia. I doubt that I will keep it that long. All cars are expensive to maintain when the warranty expires. Hybrids have 30% more parts to break.
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Re: OTOH.... [kdhspyder] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 09, 2009 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jun 09, 2009 4:32 am)

I realize it's all anecdotal, but I have many friends with Toyota hybrids of one sort or another, from 2003 to 2008 models, and nobody has had a stitch of trouble. Some of these cars have been cross-country a number of times.
 
These cars are not my cup of tea but if someone asked me about projected reliability over the course of 10 years, I'd have to say I'd be reasonably optimistic.
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Very satisfied by misterme
Jul 14, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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I bought a new Honda Civic Hybrid in 2004 (2004 Model).
I did nothing but basic maintenance (Rotation, oil chg) up until I replaced 4 tires at 88,000 miles. At 130,000 miles I noticed the beginning of a shudder/bad transmission noise and brought it into the dealer at 133,000 miles.
 
They replaced the "Start clutch" which apparently is the main clutch system. Bill would have been $1300 but Honda paid half under for a good faith measure.
 
I thought it was exceptional Honda would pay for half my cost at 133,000 miles.
 
The transmission band slips a little under moderate acceleration. When that happens I have them drain/fill the CVT fluid and it fixes it for another 15-20k miles.
 
Honda offered to pay half of a repair that would replace the band and controlling valve bodies but would still cost around $1,300. I declined the repair to continue occasionally changing the fluid.
 
Overall it's been a truly wonderful car.
I've averaged about 61MPG over the life of it calculating tank to tank and that sure was nice when gas was around $5/g. I've never owned such a fun car to drive and the mileage game keeps me from getting bored.
 
Other than the occasional transmission slip, the car starts/runs/drives/looks practically as it did new off the lot.
 
I've never had a vehicle last over 112,000 miles and that fact alone has me floored. Our other vehicle is a 2001 Grand Caravan at 94,000 and had two cylinder heads, steering rack, sliding door motors, window regulators, cruise control and AC compressor replaced- and seems to be nearing the end of it's utility.
 
My father just got a new Honda Insight and raves constantly about it. I'm sold on the Honda Hybrid line and will definetly replace mine with another someday.
 
-Steve
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Re: Very satisfied [misterme] by whitey9
Jul 15, 2009 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: misterme (Jul 14, 2009 4:55 pm)

Dear MisterMe,
You should know that eventually the friction material that wears off during the slipping process will all be worn off.
Then you will have to bite the bullet.
I might do the 1/2 cost deal w/Honda while they are still agreeable.
 
I have never owned a Honda, but those people I know who have/do, swear nicely by them, not badly like some other cars.
 
The new Insight has no back-seat legroom except for midgets. I can barely get thru the doorway, and have to strategically align my feet to enter.
The basic model is too poorly equipped, and the next model up has too much stuff.
Plus it is too slow to drive here in Dallas ( I would get run over ).
 
Gotta go, do the deal w/Honda now and save yourself some headaches.
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Re: Very satisfied [misterme] by igandalf2
Jul 15, 2009 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: misterme (Jul 14, 2009 4:55 pm)

How did you get Honda to pay half? I had the same issue. They told me it was normal wear and tear. I now have to replace the transmission $3400.. It has 160,000 miles on it. I first noticed the issue at 30,000 miles. I also noticed that replacing the trans fluid, more often, (at my cost) seemed to temporarily fix slippage.
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AC vent noise by joseph85750
Jul 18, 2009 (9:35 am)
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I have a 2007 FEH, and love it so far!
However, there is this annoying sound that occurs after the AC has been running for a few minutes. The best way I can describe it is the sound those "clicker toy" things make (reference http://www.papertrove.com/servlet/Detail?no=278 ..sorry )
 
After the sound is happening, if I turn the AC off and only run vent, the sound will eventually go away. It appears to be coming from some device under the dash visible on the passenger side. It's about 5" x 4". I can feel the snapping/popping sound when I place my hand on this:
 
Picture of module
 
Anyone else have this problem or know what the issue might be?

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