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#50 of 130 Honda hybrid expected maintenance and issues by mary jo Feb 09, 2009 (6:16 pm)
I'm considering buying a 2006 Civic Hybrid with 31,000 miles. I've never had a hybrid before. What repair issues should I expect? How long will the battery last? Are there items that might have problems that are NOT covered by the power train warranty? What else should I be thinking about? Replies to this message: 74apollo (Feb 10, 2009 2:05 pm)
#51 of 130 Re: Hybrid Vehicles Maintenance and Repair [Mr_Shiftright] by charlesp Feb 10, 2009 (11:25 am)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 27, 2008 7:47 am) Any chance this same battery could work as the replacement in a Hylander Hybrid 2006? Toyota parts here quotes just a standard 51R battery at $99 as the replacement for HiHy should the installed battery fail.
#52 of 130 Re: Honda hybrid expected maintenance and issues [mary jo] by 74apollo Feb 10, 2009 (2:05 pm)
Replying to: mary jo (Feb 09, 2009 6:16 pm) You might want to call the previous owner and find out why he/she got rid of it. There are some serious issues with the tire control arms that are discussed under a different forum. You might want to read through that.
#53 of 130 Re: Driving without IMA [stevedebi] by killerbunny1 Feb 21, 2009 (8:37 am)
Replying to: stevedebi (Oct 31, 2008 10:44 am) Good point about CR-V. we've replaced the A/C compressor 2 times (i.e.vehicle's third compressor) before 55,000 miles! We are considering buying a Honda-certified 2008 Civic Hybrid for $18K, but now are wondering if cost savings will be offset by high maintenance. Judging by posts on this thread, we're better off getting a regular fuel-efficient Fit or even Nissan Versa.
#54 of 130 Will not run. by vertex Feb 21, 2009 (7:01 pm)
My 2006 has DTC P0A00 which is not listed in the manual. However, it is a generic electric motor coolant code. I checked the 2 sensors, for MG1 and MG2, and find they are OK, about 125K at 40F. The ECU has 5V at the connector with it unplugged from the motor. Is there anything else that can cause this, or is my ECU fried?
#55 of 130 Honda Civic Hybrid 2008 by george128 Mar 13, 2009 (5:54 pm)
As advertised by Honda, I do not feel that my car ever goes to electric drive only . Honda says under 35 mph on a level road with a battery sufficiently charged,engine warm,light throttle.and in city cruising etc.that it does.The service mgr says it is happening but you won't know it and also said that if it fails that an error code occurs.I asked for specifics as to when it will happen and got no answers and no error code involved.In my letter to Honda in California I was pushed back to the Dealer.So I have no answers.Are there any thoughts on this issue? Replies to this message: stevedebi (Mar 15, 2009 8:47 pm) kdhspyder (Mar 16, 2009 12:31 pm) galileo5 (Apr 12, 2009 5:06 am) whitey9 (Apr 12, 2009 8:44 am)
#56 of 130 by envirofriend Mar 13, 2009 (8:07 pm)
I'd like feedback to that question also. I see the engine go to auto stop when i come to a stop (which is often since i drive short trips in the city. I'm up to about 800 miles and am still only getting about 27-29 mpg. true most of my trips are under 5 miles. is that the main reason? i do notice when i go on slightly longer drives within the city, it goes up to low 30's. but it may be that i am just driving such short distances i will never see a significant increase in mileage. i am going to have to consider riding a bike more often. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 14, 2009 9:32 am)
#57 of 130 Re: [envirofriend] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Mar 14, 2009 (9:32 am)
Replying to: envirofriend (Mar 13, 2009 8:07 pm) Your overall miles on the odometer are too few yet to accurately calculate fuel mileage and yes, short trips are usually run on a cold engine (resistant from cold fluids) andan enriched fuel mixture.   Once you hit about 3,000 miles or so, go on a freeway trip for 100-200 miles and I bet you'll see a big jump.   As your car breaks it, even short trip mileage should increase but 5 mile trips are not easy on a car's fuel economy. If you were driving ALL DAY in the city, that would improve things because the car's properly warmed up.
#58 of 130 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid 2008 [george128] by stevedebi Mar 15, 2009 (8:47 pm)
Replying to: george128 (Mar 13, 2009 5:54 pm) "As advertised by Honda, I do not feel that my car ever goes to electric drive only . Honda says under 35 mph on a level road with a battery sufficiently charged,engine warm,light throttle.and in city cruising etc.that it does.The service mgr says it is happening but you won't know it and also said that if it fails that an error code occurs.I asked for specifics as to when it will happen and got no answers and no error code involved.In my letter to Honda in California I was pushed back to the Dealer.So I have no answers.Are there any thoughts on this issue? "   The HMA system uses electric motors in the drivetrain, to assist the gasoline engine. To my mind that means there is no way for the car to run on electric only (it would essentially be running the engine, which is connected to the drivetrain - unless they somehow uncoupled the automatic transmission). The Internet articles I've read indicate the IMA cannot run on electric only.   The advantage of this system is that it doesn't require a lot of hybrid-specific changes to the vehicle (it is essentially an add-on to the current transmission), and therefore costs less than a "two-mode" hybrid, which is capable of running on electric (for a short distance), hybrid-electric, or gasoline.   I had thought that the IMA only turned off the engine at stops.   Anyone else? Replies to this message: kdhspyder (Mar 16, 2009 12:31 pm)
#59 of 130 Re: Honda Civic Hybrid 2008 [stevedebi] by kdhspyder Mar 16, 2009 (12:31 pm)
Replying to: stevedebi (Mar 15, 2009 8:47 pm) I believe that you are correct ^^^^.   The IMA has an electric motor attached to the engine output shaft which 'assists' the motor to run more efficiently, ergo the Integraged Motor Assist ( IMA ) nomenclature.   AFAIK it is not possible for the IMA vehicles to drive on electric power alone, except maybe at startup from a dead stop for a very very short distance ( meters ).   OTOH the very elegant engineering solution that Honda has created is less expensive and more compact than Ford's or Toyota's or GM's so it's well suited to smaller and less expensive vehicles, the Civic hybrid and the Fit hybrid ( Insight II ).

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