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Hybrid Vehicle Maintenance, Repair and Concerns

133 messages,  Last post on Nov 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Prius, Honda Fit Hybrid, Ford Escape Hybrid, Honda Hybrid, Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid, Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, Truck


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Re: New Civic Hybrid mileage [envirofriend] by dtownfb
Jan 05, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: envirofriend (Jan 03, 2009 2:19 pm)

With only 125 miles on the car, a service manager might laugh at you if you came in and complained about gas mileage. Give it to at least 1000 miles before you start to worry.
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Re: New Civic Hybrid mileage [dtownfb] by envirofriend
Jan 05, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 05, 2009 10:06 am)

Thanks. I had to go to the dealership anyway and the sales manager said it takes about 500 miles to break it in. So I'll monitor. Then he filled up the car for me so I got a half tank of gas for my troubles. That usually doesn't happen .
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Re: New Civic Hybrid mileage [envirofriend] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 05, 2009 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: envirofriend (Jan 05, 2009 5:55 pm)

Don't base your mileage on short trips, that won't work. Engines use more fuel when cold and yours barely has time to warm up. Also, your "final" gas mileage won't lock in for at least 5,000 miles.
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Re: New Civic Hybrid mileage [envirofriend] by dtownfb
Jan 07, 2009 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: envirofriend (Jan 05, 2009 5:55 pm)

At least he didn't laugh at you.... I wonder if he would have you the gas if prices were still at $4.
 
One suggestion since gas mileage is very important to you. Get a small notebook to keep in your glove compartment to track your gas mileage. It's very simple and will only add 20 seconds to each fill-up. make 5 columns. "Date" in the 1st column, "odometer reading" in 2nd, "Miles" in 3rd (this is the miles traveled since last fill-up; basically the current odometer reading minus the last odometer reading), "gallons" in the 4th and "MPG" in the last column. This will help you keep track of your gas mileage. Also as you put on more miles, it's a good way to check for problems in your car as well as maintenance.
 
i've done this with my last 4 cars. I know exactly how much gas I am using. I can also tell how cold weather affects my gas mileage. the onboard computer is normally accurate enough but this way you have the exact gas mileage.
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Re: New Civic Hybrid mileage [dtownfb] by envirofriend
Jan 07, 2009 (11:38 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jan 07, 2009 9:41 am)

Thanks. Yes I definitely plan on tracking my mileage that way. My (over?)reaction stems from the fact that acquaintances with Priuses did not start off with such a significant difference in initial mileage. I will be interested to see the pattern once I get through a few tanks.
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Re: New Civic Hybrid mileage [envirofriend] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 08, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: envirofriend (Jan 07, 2009 11:38 pm)

Yeah but they don't drive the same route, times, speeds, etc as you do.
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100,000 mile summary...2005 Prius by kdhspyder
Jan 08, 2009 (11:05 am)
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My 2005 Prius just reached 100,000 miles this week after 37 months.
 
I keep track of everything. My records have records,LOL
 
Every tank except the last 4 or 5 has been entered on the GH database. The lifetime fuel economy is 47.9 mpg. This is the 'real' number, Tot Miles Driven / Tot Gal Pumped.
 
So what has this cost me in Maintenance? Don't be shocked by some of the following..
 
All services done at or near the 5000 mi scheduled interval:
 
Oil and filters .................... $ZERO ! (All vehicles get O/F Free for Life)
4 new tires 50000 mi ....................... $275
2 replacement tires for road hazards ..... $180
16 tire rotations ................................... $320
3 rotate and balance............................. $90
2 sets of wipers..................................... $5
... Subtotal: Rubber .......................... $870
 
2 engine flushes ( my choice ).............. $150
1 rear replacement bulb............................... 10 cents
1 lower grill facia replacement................. $30
2 air filters............................................. $30
3 cabin air filters.................................... $90
 
3 minor accidents
broken rims, deer, other driver................ $750 deductibles.
 
The next service at 103,000 miles will be the first 'major' service where all the normal service is done plus the engine/inverter coolant drain/replace.
 
Excluding the 3 deductibles the total costs for maintenance has been about $1150 almost all of which is for rubber. The Oil/Filters Free for Life is unusual certainly except in this area. It's a significant piece of change since I get 7 or 8 free services every year.
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Re: 100,000 mile summary...2005 Prius [kdhspyder] by dtownfb
Jan 09, 2009 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jan 08, 2009 11:05 am)

That vehicle has served you very well.
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Re: This is squarely on the head of this topic [gagrice] by cdptrap
Jan 15, 2009 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 03, 2009 1:17 pm)

Hmmm... why are "...all the large hybrids have been total FLOPS..."? Can you specify in what way are they flops?
 
Our '06 HH has been everywhere from Oregon to southern CA, from desert rocky roads near or below sea level to high mountain icy patches around 7000-ft. It tows our working trailer when working on our ranch and farm, it takes my children and their friends to activities when serving as a "van". It has 45,000 miles on it, with 92% of brake pads intact, has NOT ONE single problem that requires a shop-stay. On average, total lifetime mileage is 26+ MPG.
 
So, where is the flop?
 
May be we need to separate our individual concern from generalization? It makes sense to worry about the batteries. It makes sense to compare cost and decide if hybrid price is worth one's desire for Mercedes luxuries. What does any of that have to do with "flops"?
 
I eagerly await your facts and information!
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Re: This is squarely on the head of this topic [cdptrap] by gagrice
Jan 15, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: cdptrap (Jan 15, 2009 2:25 pm)

Our '06 HH has been everywhere from Oregon to southern CA,
 
I guess we do not share the same perspective of large. I don't consider the HH or FEH large SUVs. The GM hybrids are the ones I was referring to. For me the 4 runner is bare minimum size. Though Toyota made huge claims of bringing hybrids in every size. I have not heard any complaints on the HH other than high priced. That and its sister RX400h is not recommended for off road at all.
 
If I go smaller than the Sequoia it will probably be the X5 diesel. It should have no problem getting 30 MPG on the highway.

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