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Hybrid Vehicle Maintenance, Repair and Concerns

130 messages,  Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 2:18 PM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Prius, Honda Fit Hybrid, Ford Escape Hybrid, Honda Hybrid, Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid, Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, Truck


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#19 of 130
by kyrpto
Oct 28, 2008 (3:55 pm)
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I'm waiting for the Highlander Hybrid to morph into an emergency vehicle or cop car. Heard the Brits tested some Lexus Hybrid SUVs for inner city use a while back.
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Re: [kyrpto] by kdhspyder
Oct 30, 2008 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: kyrpto (Oct 28, 2008 3:55 pm)

Aspen, CO already has one in use and a township in NJ is replacing it's FEH with an HH. I'm discussing with one of the towns on the Outer Banks to purchase one as well.
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Driving without IMA by annek1
Oct 31, 2008 (7:38 am)
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Is it possible to disconnect the IMA system and drive the Civic 2003 as if it were not a hybrid vehicle?
 
It's clear to me, with all the maintenance costs of this car over the years, that the gas savings has been eaten up. Now that the IMA battery is dead, I am told by the dealer it's $3,000 to repair--the car isn't worth any more money spent, but without the battery, it also isn't worth much as a trade in.
 
I'm interested in knowing if the IMA system can be disengaged and the car still operate.
 
(It seems there is no indication how to post a new thread on this forum--I'm new here; how is it done?)
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Re: Driving without IMA [annek1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 31, 2008 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: annek1 (Oct 31, 2008 7:38 am)

I noticed this comment when looking up battery costs for your car. This remark is under warranty battery replacement procedures: the "you" in this paragraph refers to the dealer:
 
Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.
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Re: Driving without IMA [Mr_Shiftright] by annek1
Oct 31, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 31, 2008 7:43 am)

Thanks, I just called the dealer and was told that the battery is under a 150,000 warranty, and we are short of that mileage. It has something to do with the fuel efficiency classification: low or high, not sure which.
 
I had already made the decision not to buy another Honda Hybrid--just wasn't worth the investment at all, and the company should be made to pay for the many problems the first model has had. I had three catalytics installed--they were all free under warranty, but still: three! With the apparent track record of the model, Honda should be forced to make all first major repairs for free, regardless of warranty; or if it was a smart company, it would do that on its own, to rebuild whatever good will it might have had with buyers.
 
While I'm on the subject of repair costs, why does the a/c compressor cost $1,200 to replace? I can a/c my complete home for that kind of money. Is there something special about the Honda a/c system that makes it such an expense?
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Re: Driving without IMA [annek1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 31, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: annek1 (Oct 31, 2008 7:59 am)

Well with an AC compressor failure, there is the possibility that the faulty compressor threw debris throughout the entire system. Your home has simple ducting coming from one unit, but a car AC has multiple components, most of which are stashed in impossible to get places. Keep in mind that your car's AC is, relative to the space involved, pretty efficient. You could never cool your home as fast as you can cool your car!
 
So getting rid of the contaminants in the system might require at least flushing lines and condenser after removing them, and often requires a new dryer, expansion valve, etc. Then there's the "trapping" and evacuation of old freon, adding new freon, testing, lubricating, blah blah.
 
This is why you see so many used cars for sale with "AC needs a recharge". Of course what that really means is that the seller found out how much it really costs to fix the AC and didn't bother to do it.
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Re: Driving without IMA [Mr_Shiftright] by annek1
Oct 31, 2008 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 31, 2008 8:10 am)

Oh well, then there is just the matter of the many stories I've heard about the Hybrid a/c system failing--must be our fault
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Re: Driving without IMA [annek1] by stevedebi
Oct 31, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: annek1 (Oct 31, 2008 9:40 am)

"Oh well, then there is just the matter of the many stories I've heard about the Hybrid a/c system failing--must be our fault"
 
Not near as many failing as in the 2002-2005 CR-V, which has been an epidemic...
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This is squarely on the head of this topic by larsb
Oct 31, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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How about repair shops finally catching up with the hybrid trend:
 
And Gary thought this would NEVER happen
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Re: This is squarely on the head of this topic [larsb] by gagrice
Oct 31, 2008 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 31, 2008 12:25 pm)

Just don't keep your hybrid past 99,999 miles and you may not be shocked.
 
The big cost difference from traditional cars is a high-voltage battery, which is supposed to last for 100,000 miles but costs anywhere from $3,000 to $10,000 when it dies.
 
That still does not address the biggest cost. Parts are still OEM and expensive compared to 3rd party vendor parts available for most traditional cars.

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