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Hybrid Vehicle Maintenance, Repair and Concerns

133 messages,  Last post on Nov 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Prius, Honda Fit Hybrid, Ford Escape Hybrid, Honda Hybrid, Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid, Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, Truck


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Re: Hybrid Vehicles Maintenance and Repair [Mr_Shiftright] by kdhspyder
Oct 19, 2008 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 13, 2008 4:14 pm)

It's easy to leave it on if you have the key in your pocket and you don't press the off button. People pull up, put it in park and get out.
 
I've done that in my Prius ( just under 3 yrs & 92,000 mi ) but 'only' for 7-8 hours!! Actually in this case what happens is that the gasoline engine cycles on for 45 sec or so to boost the traction battery then the ICE shuts down. On - Off - On - Off - etc, etc, etc, etc At that rate of running for 45 sec every 3-5 min it would take an awfully long time to run the tank empty. I'm guessing weeks. At that time the ICE would stall out and the system would shut down.
 
The 12v battery serves very little purpose in a Prius. It only sends a signal to the engine to begin to power up and it keeps the 'clock ticking' when the vehicle is off. It's about half the size of a normal 12v battery. It can be run down like any other 12v if a light is left on inside but that's about the only way it can go dead.
 
As railrodjames has noted the Prius is ultra reliable and durable. It is in fact the No 1 most reliable family vehicle in both CR and JD Power's rankings. I've been hit twice, once on the rear door by the battery, with no difference in driving dynamics at all. Other than these accidents the hybrids actually have LESS maintenance than a similar ICE-only vehcle!!! Huh? LESS you say?
 
Yes, the hybrid systems need no maintenance EVER at anytime during their lives.
The ICE needs oil and filters every 5K or 6 mo's like any other ICE vehicle.
The ICE needs an air filter 30K mi, Many other vehicles recommend 15K intervals.
The ICE has a timing chain which never needs service. The same as the Corolla/Camry for example
The PSD needs a coolant drain/replace at 100,000 mi intervals.
The ICE has 120,000 mi spark plugs. The same as the Corolla/Camry for example.
The EPS never needs maintenance. The same as the Corolla/Camry for example.
The 12v battery were it to fail is about half the size of a normal ICE 12v battery.
The OEM tires are Goodyear run-of-the-mill Integritys which should last 40,000 mi. My OEMs went to exactly 50,000 mi.
 
Oh...hybrid drivers are finding that their original brakes are lasting well over 100,000 miles and even up to 200,000 - 250,000 without replacement. I'm about half way there. A friend who also posts here just turned 215,000 miles on his '04. He did replace a water pump and serpentine belt at about 150K-160K mi. but he's still on his original brakes.
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Re: Hybrid Vehicles Maintenance and Repair [kdhspyder] by gagrice
Oct 26, 2008 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Oct 19, 2008 6:58 am)

The 12v battery were it to fail is about half the size of a normal ICE 12v battery.
 
If it is just a small 12 volt battery why does it cost $300 to replace? At least two Prius owners have quoted that price from Toyota.
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Re: Hybrid Vehicles Maintenance and Repair [gagrice] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 27, 2008 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 26, 2008 6:29 pm)

It's not the size that's the difference, it's the construction. The Prius 12V battery is an AGM (Absorbed-electrolyte Glass Mat) type of battery. I could bore you with explanation if you wish
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Re: Hybrid Vehicles Maintenance and Repair [Mr_Shiftright] by kiawah
Oct 27, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 27, 2008 7:47 am)

well you got my interest....had never heard of it. But here's a website:
 
new battery type
 
the invention
 
Sheez, now why didn't I think of that!!
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Re: Hybrid Vehicles Maintenance and Repair [kiawah] by gagrice
Oct 27, 2008 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Oct 27, 2008 9:00 am)

Toyota thought of it. Just another way to keep you coming to the dealer for service. Specialty parts that are not worth making a generic equivalent. Another good reason not to own a hybrid.
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by kyrpto
Oct 28, 2008 (3:55 pm)
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I'm waiting for the Highlander Hybrid to morph into an emergency vehicle or cop car. Heard the Brits tested some Lexus Hybrid SUVs for inner city use a while back.
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Re: [kyrpto] by kdhspyder
Oct 30, 2008 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: kyrpto (Oct 28, 2008 3:55 pm)

Aspen, CO already has one in use and a township in NJ is replacing it's FEH with an HH. I'm discussing with one of the towns on the Outer Banks to purchase one as well.
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Driving without IMA by annek1
Oct 31, 2008 (7:38 am)
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Is it possible to disconnect the IMA system and drive the Civic 2003 as if it were not a hybrid vehicle?
 
It's clear to me, with all the maintenance costs of this car over the years, that the gas savings has been eaten up. Now that the IMA battery is dead, I am told by the dealer it's $3,000 to repair--the car isn't worth any more money spent, but without the battery, it also isn't worth much as a trade in.
 
I'm interested in knowing if the IMA system can be disengaged and the car still operate.
 
(It seems there is no indication how to post a new thread on this forum--I'm new here; how is it done?)
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Re: Driving without IMA [annek1] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 31, 2008 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: annek1 (Oct 31, 2008 7:38 am)

I noticed this comment when looking up battery costs for your car. This remark is under warranty battery replacement procedures: the "you" in this paragraph refers to the dealer:
 
Out of warranty:
Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.
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Re: Driving without IMA [Mr_Shiftright] by annek1
Oct 31, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 31, 2008 7:43 am)

Thanks, I just called the dealer and was told that the battery is under a 150,000 warranty, and we are short of that mileage. It has something to do with the fuel efficiency classification: low or high, not sure which.
 
I had already made the decision not to buy another Honda Hybrid--just wasn't worth the investment at all, and the company should be made to pay for the many problems the first model has had. I had three catalytics installed--they were all free under warranty, but still: three! With the apparent track record of the model, Honda should be forced to make all first major repairs for free, regardless of warranty; or if it was a smart company, it would do that on its own, to rebuild whatever good will it might have had with buyers.
 
While I'm on the subject of repair costs, why does the a/c compressor cost $1,200 to replace? I can a/c my complete home for that kind of money. Is there something special about the Honda a/c system that makes it such an expense?

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