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Hybrid Vehicle Maintenance, Repair and Concerns

133 messages,  Last post on Nov 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Prius, Honda Fit Hybrid, Ford Escape Hybrid, Honda Hybrid, Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid, Toyota Highlander Hybrid, Hybrid Cars, Coupe, Hatchback, Truck


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Re: 2010 toyota prius break problems anyone? [kiawah] by charlesp
Nov 02, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Nov 02, 2009 6:30 am)

You know, personally I get really irritated by snide comments in reply emails. I presume nobody has ever fat fingered a keyboard and not realized it until immediately after pressing the send key, and mispelling your boss' name
 
Anyway, in my O6 HH, nowhere in the manual was it made really clear that when braking, the gas engine will likely shut down and all the engine braking one has learned to appreciate in a regular gas-engine car, will go away. Net result, because you aren't fully depressing the brake pedal, the car will "accelerate" and unless you quickly react you could experience an unplanned, sudden stop.
 
Likewise, the braking benefits of using the B mode in lieu of Drive, was not emphasized. (Not only does it charge the battery but "engine braking" is restored.
 
So, let's not assume that the owner's manual is the be all end all of driver education for "new" car owners and anyone who can't find exactly what they need in a manual is stupid. Often I find knowledge from users groups is far more current and clear than any manufacturer's manual.
 
Chuck
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Re: 2010 toyota prius break problems anyone? [charlesp] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 02, 2009 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: charlesp (Nov 02, 2009 11:19 am)

B mode is for downhill, not normal driving. I think you just need to get used to the Prius. It feels really weird at first. At least I thought so first few times I drove one. Reminded me of an old Citroen.
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Re: 2010 toyota prius break problems anyone? [charlesp] by kdhspyder
Nov 13, 2009 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: charlesp (Nov 02, 2009 11:19 am)

Yes 'B' Mode should not be used in normal day-to-day driving. It's only to be used for engine 'B'raking going down long steep inclines, as specified in the Owner's Manual.
 
As to the OP's original question about the sense that the vehicle is surging just before the brakes take hold, there are multiple discussions on this over at PriusChat. I frankly don't remember any surging sensation 4 yrs ago when I first took delivery of my 05, But if it's there I've certainly adjusted to it. The braking is as normal as the sun rising now.
 
In fact I find the brakes a lot better in the Toyota hybrids than most other cars for one very simple reason. When you go to brake a non-hybrid the ICE is still running, still driving the vehicle forward. Braking a non-hybrid requires the operator to overcome the ICE. In the Prius and other Toyota hybrids when the foot comes off the accelerator at ~40 mph and lower the ICE turns off, no forward pull.....sudden stops are more common IMO.
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Toyota Highlander '08 Hybrid Battery Problems by partygal
Nov 16, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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I have been searching Highlander Battery issues and most that I've seen are from having the vehical sit for extended periods of time. My issue is different. I own a Catering Business and frequently need to work out of the back of my car. I have been a toyota owner for many years and I purchased (Brand New) a Highlander Hybrid in April 2008. The first time the battery went dead was during an event and I was not aware that if you leave the hatchback open that the dome light will killl the 12volt battery after about 30 minutes. I could not figure out the problem until the 12 volt battery repeatedly died on me. After having the car checked several times by my dealership, they reported that the battery was fine. I was agdvised to keep the car in READY mode, thus having the car cycle between the gas engine and the Hybrid Batteries. This seemed to work after a while, but the car has died three times in the past two weeks for as little a thing as leaving the hazzard lights on. Toyota is telling me that I am the only person having this problem! They are replacing the battery right now(as the car died again this morning). Has anyone else had dead battery issues from leaving leaving the hatchback open, door open, hazzard lights on? By the way, I had learned after the first several times to make sure that all interior lights, radio, and anything that might drain the battery were off and unplugged ( IPod charger)!
Thanks for any insight!
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Re: Toyota Highlander '08 Hybrid Battery Problems [partygal] by whitey9
Nov 16, 2009 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: partygal (Nov 16, 2009 12:28 pm)

I had my Prius' 12V battery run down after leaving the headlights on. I have not had this problem after realizing the battery is just about the size of a motorcycle battery ( tiny ). I do not leave any lights on, or doors open to prevent a reoccurrence of that type of experience..

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