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Replying to: mitchflorida (Nov 23, 2008 7:32 am) I don't see a huge advantage You obviously have never driven a Mazda3. The handling and power and pure drivability trump the Honda Civic. As for the current Mazda3, you can get more car for less money. Real world resale value are pretty darn close to one another and the Mazda3 has been extremely reliable. What does the Civic offer that the Mazda3 does not? Longer track record of reliability and a couple more mpg's? That's not worth it to me. Why would you choose a Honda Civic over a Mazda3?
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Replying to: draymond2 (Nov 22, 2008 2:35 pm) http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2010-Mazda3-driving_200348.htm |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 23, 2008 12:21 pm) Civic will have a much higher trade-in value and lower lease costs as well. I have heard the new 3 looks very good in person, but not in the photos. Will give it a shot, especially the hatchback.
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Inside Line has posted a first drive review. The one new piece of information I saw is that the navigation will be priced near $500. That sounds tempting as long as the software and maps are good and the smaller screen isn't too much of a compromise. It would sure beat the clashing look of the standard white text information screen next to the orange radio screen which makes it look like an afterthought. |
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Replying to: mitchflorida (Nov 23, 2008 7:43 pm) Civic will have a much higher trade-in value and lower lease costs as well. Your impression is not really right. Lets compare apples to apples here. Take a 2009 Mazda3 i Touring Value Edition with an automatic transmission vs a Civic LX-S with an automatic transmission. Mazda3: $18,465 with destination and regional adjustment. Honda Civic: $19,425 with destination The Mazda3 offers more power, 17" alloy wheels, and fog lights. Lease programs are also very similar and come to within a few dollars of each other. The Honda Civic does not have a "much higher" trade in either. It is a little higher, but, you also pay more for the car. They depreciate almost equally. |
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Edmunds say the Mazda will depreciate $2,546 $2,312 $2,035 $1,803 $1,619 $10,315 Total cost to own : $38,698 and the Civic will depreciate 1,520 $2,277 $2,003 $1,775 $1,594 $9,169 Total cost to own: $35,541 Meaning, if you drive both cars for 5 years, you will save $3200 with the Civic. Of course, this may lessen with the new model . . on the other hand, you won't see big discounts on a brand new model like the Mazda3 |
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Replying to: mitchflorida (Nov 24, 2008 10:38 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Nov 24, 2008 10:46 am) Agreed, even when compared to 'superior' automobiles...I drove a G37 a couple weeks before I drove a Mazda6 MT and the Infiniti was clunky had a difficult time going into gears; it was not fun to drive. |
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Replying to: mitchflorida (Nov 24, 2008 10:38 am) These small cars, like the Civic and Mazda3, saw their value sky rocket in the summer due to high fuel costs. These cars at the auctions were going for values up published and unprecedented as well as new cars sales seeing record monthly numbers. Now, the general public does not know that. That's no fault of their own.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 24, 2008 1:31 pm) But as a class they would tend to rise and fall pricewise in tandem so Edmunds may be wrong in the future values but right based on past numbers. However, I totally agree that Edmunds fair value prices are way off in a lot of markets. It would be impossible for them to publish a number for many different metro areas and there are large differences as you and I have noted in the past(Chicago vs. NE). If I had used their value when I bought my 2007 Mazda6 I would have paid at least $1500 more for the car. I hope uninformed(unsuspecting?) visitors to Edmunds website don't take those values as anything more than somewhat of an average. In the current thread talking about comparing 5 year costs for a 3 vs. a Civic, what number do they start with? Do they use real world purchase price numbers or MSRP to start off their analysis with? That would throw the whole equation off immensely......my 07 Mazda6 was purchased at about $4700 under MSRP. I couldn't have touched an Accord for much under $1500-$1700 under MSRP at the time. That would be quite a large difference over 5 years in less finance and less depreciation costs from original purchase price. |
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