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Replying to: m6user (Nov 20, 2008 10:58 am) Is the Mazda3 really that far off in fuel economy?? Lets see. Corolla XRS (2.4L 158hp / 162tq) MPG 22/30 Corolla S (1.8L 132hp / 128tq) MPG 27/35 Honda Civic (1.8L 140hp / 128tq) MPG 25/36 Nissan Sentra (2.0L 140hp / 147tq) MPG 25/33 Mazda3 i (2.0L 148hp / 135tq) MPG 24/33 Mazda3 s (2.5L 167hp / 168tq) MPG 22/29 With a big power advantage in both 2.0L and 2.5L engines, the FE is not too far off at all compared to the leading competition. Add to the Mazda the huge advantage in driveability, and one can look past the slim mpg disadvantage, especially in a market where fuel is around $2.00/gal.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 20, 2008 1:18 pm) All things must pass as will this reduction in fuel costs. When world economies pick up.....up will go the price per gallon. Anyway, I'm not really complaining about the relative fuel economy which is in the ball park. It's just that a lot of people think it was a little short sighted to have the new 6 get about the lowest 6 cyl fuel economy of all midsizers. The Mazda3 2.5L has nice power and great handling. Add really good fuel economy in that package and you would really have a winner. 32 mpg hwy would have been just right to really make this one sing a nice tune. What's wrong with leading the pack in all categories if you have the chance? Now, for the big grin on the front of the new 3. It's a little much but I guess I could get used to it. Right now it kind of reminds me of the animated movie "Cars" |
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a photo i found online http://cars.about.com/od/mazda/ig/2010-Mazda3-photo-gallery/2010-Mazda3-GT-inter- ior.htm. |
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Replying to: draymond2 (Nov 19, 2008 5:42 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 20, 2008 1:18 pm) I live in Brooklyn, NY. I don't drive to work so I don't always drive in traffic but even when there is no traffic there are many stoplights. It seems that the MPG of the 3 and the Sentra drop much more in city driving than the MPG of Corollas and Civics. On the MazdaAxela forums drivers of 3s w/ automatics, especially the 3S report rarely exceeding 30 MPG on the hwy (it is rated at 29) whereas on the Edmunds forums Corolla owners frequently get 40 on the hwy (it is rated at 35). I rented a 3I this summer and got the same MPG I get w/ a '96 Altima that is more powerful. It may be that the torque we love cost fuel economy b/c the Civic and Corolla have less than even the 3I.
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Replying to: smallcar1 (Nov 22, 2008 8:28 am) For those with the 2.3L, I have seen plenty get over 30mpg hwy, and here on Edmunds, many have posted getting 32 hwy. I have the 2.3L in my Mazda6 and I get 31-32 highway going 75+ and an average of 25-27mpg overall. I have seen far more people exceeding their EPA estimates on the Mazda3 then those making par or less. I have no doubt that the Mazda3, especially the 2.5L, will exceed the EPA estimates. The 09 Mazda6 owners are reporting mileage as high as 34 on the highway in the same 2.5L.
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Replying to: webdriver (Nov 21, 2008 7:28 pm) It reminds me of the Tribeca a few years back, Subura was smart enought to change the front end after one year because it was so ugly...Hopefullly Mazda will do the same thing.
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If that darkened area (grille?) was painted to match the rest of the car, it would probably look much better. I kinda like it though.....probably looks better in the flesh.
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Replying to: donthegreek (Nov 22, 2008 10:14 pm) I don't see a huge advantage . . am I wrong?
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Replying to: mitchflorida (Nov 23, 2008 7:32 am) I don't see a huge advantage You obviously have never driven a Mazda3. The handling and power and pure drivability trump the Honda Civic. As for the current Mazda3, you can get more car for less money. Real world resale value are pretty darn close to one another and the Mazda3 has been extremely reliable. What does the Civic offer that the Mazda3 does not? Longer track record of reliability and a couple more mpg's? That's not worth it to me. Why would you choose a Honda Civic over a Mazda3?
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