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Replying to: dilbertsdub (Sep 28, 2009 3:44 pm) I've test driven a Mazda 3s Sport sedan so far and liked it, but it was an auto...I need to go back and try the hatch with a manual. The interior of the Fusion didn't bother me and I have two friends with Focus cars with Sync and it works very well. |
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Replying to: texasnightowl (Sep 28, 2009 9:40 pm) We've only got about 32,000 miles on our Jetta and full warranty just ended last summer, so no repair costs yet. There have been a number of problems fixed under warranty, but ours is a 2005, so one of the first of the new model. Oil changes do cost more, because of the synthetic oil requirement...ours cost about double. But then they are required only once per year for my wife's Jetta vs. 3 times per year for my Mazda. I think I've spent much less on maintenance than the other poster, I ask for only the maintenance that is required according to VW's schedule. |
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Replying to: texasnightowl (Sep 28, 2009 9:40 pm) i can attest to jeffyscotts post. not to mention that several of the vw dealers in my area have service costs that are basically on par with the japanese automakers. it costs like 15 bucks more for my wife to get a fully synthetic oil change and tire rotation for her new beetle than it does for me to get a regualr oil change and tire rotation at my honda dealer for my fit. |
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Replying to: texasnightowl (Sep 28, 2009 9:40 pm) as far as maintenance cost, I'm sure prices do vary, but speaking on my experience, and in the dallas market the VW w/ sythetic oil does cost more than a Japanese vehicle. approx $78-80 at 10000 miles intervals for the 2.5 engine. its not too bad since the intervals are longer than the 3000 miles for the MZ3 w/ regular oil this cost will probably be a wash. However, be prepared to stash some cash for future predictable unreliability on the VW. You will love the way it drives and absolutely love to hate your service department when they tell you they can't duplicate the issue/problem when they do arise. Best of luck.
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Replying to: dilbertsdub (Sep 30, 2009 4:22 pm) I'm more worried about necessary repairs based on a 10 yr/100k use period. It seems like the Jetta may be more likely to cost more in repairs as you either will end up at the dealer or at a select group of shops vs the Mazda or Ford where you will more likely have a better range of options for repair shops. I've test driven both an auto and manual Jetta S last week and do like both overall...a couple of niggling little things bother me...one being the spacing of the clutch/brake/gas pedals. In my current car there is a lot more space between the clutch and the brake pedals than there was in the Jetta. Also, the 5 spd manual at 60mph was running about 2500rpm while the auto at 60mph was running closer to 2000rpm so on highway trips it seems like the auto would def. average better mpg I'm definitely going to go back in the next week or two and drive the manual Mazda 3s. And the VW salesguy is supposed to let me know when they get a MT TDI for me to try. Plus, dealers are still recovering from C4C (in terms of still replenishing their lots) and getting 2010's in so I'm going to continue looking for a while longer. I am luckily in no real rush.
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Replying to: texasnightowl (Sep 30, 2009 7:05 pm) |
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Texas night owl, funny you mention the clutch take up on the jetta. You are correct it does seem to be a bit awkward at times. I must have stalled the Jetta at least 10 times even after 3 yrs of ownership. Just kinda felt like I was having to re-learn or get used to my own car even after owning it for years. My partner had the same issue as well with the Jetta. The mazda on the other hand has a fantastic shifting manual and a very easy to learn clutch. FYI, on the highway, if in 6th gear in the MZ3, don't bother shifting to 5th for extra oomph,..you'll probably wish for 4th at the very least. You are right to be concerned about cost to own/repair/maintain etc with the VW, i have owned 6 Nissan/Infiniti products before buying my VW and all of them had their various issues most of which either occured at either 60000 miles or 100,000 but in all honesty they were/are to be expected of any brand (timing belt, spark plugs, most of the normal stuff) so I too was leary of the VW but was smitten with the way it rode and handled like a teutonic bank vault. My VW on the other hand required the following: 4000miles new fuel filler door and trunk latch (trunk and fuel door refused to close at any temperature below 50 degrees) 17,000miles New Catalytic Converter 24,000miles Car does not recognize the key or the key does not recognize my car. 29000miles Moonroof gets to decide on its own when it wants to open/close or just flat out take the day off. Side windows and door locks follow the same clown show shortly thereafter. 38,000 miles Intermittant issue where car won't start, CEL flashes incessantly, dealer cannot locate any fault codes or duplicate my vehicles issues after 6 trips and two separate dealers have crawled all over my car (and fingerpainted on my headliner) to locate a problem to no avail. VAG (Volkswagen of America Group is of no help here) 40,000 miles, battery dies, 40,400 miles, altenator dies, 41,000 miles, ignition control module dies, 48,000 miles, headliner begins to bubble and fester and pulls out completely from the rear anchors in the C pillars. (oddly, dealer happens to have 3 headliners already on order for other customers as well,...this seems to be an odd yet all too common issue) Dealer replaces headliner and is finally able to duplicate the sunroof and window issues with a wire they found?!? 50,991 miles, (991 miles out of warranty), CEL comes on, dealer is magically able to locate the supposed problem with why my vehicle had its starting issues back from 38,000 miles and now wants me to pay $308 and change for a purge regulator valve citing that my engine was flooding itself with fuel why it would not start? I think not, slap her together so I can buy any Japanese Vehicle,.heck I'll even consider a Mitsubishi at this point! So I hope you take my warning with the VW, but if you do go buy the VW I can certainly understand,..it is a very enjoyable car to drive and the TDI I hear is even better,..Hopefully you'll just have better luck than I did.
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Replying to: jbbevel (Sep 27, 2009 9:29 pm) |
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Replying to: texasnightowl (Sep 28, 2009 9:40 pm) |
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 21, 2009 2:23 pm) "Mazda SKY-G is a next-generation direct injection gasoline engine with significantly improved fuel economy and output performance due to enhanced thermal efficiency. ... Specifically, fuel economy and torque are improved by approximately 15 percent compared to Mazda’s current 2.0-liter engine. This was achieved by adopting next-generation fuel injectors and a highly functional variable valve timing mechanism. The engine enables fuel economy equivalent to the current Mazda Demio (known as the Mazda2 overseas) to be achieved in a vehicle the size of a Mazda Axela (Mazda3)....Mazda’s next-generation SKY-Drive automatic transmission ... improves fuel economy by approximately five percent, due to a complete redesign that significantly reduces mechanical friction, a revised torque converter and clutch with minimized slip, and an optimized lock-up mechanism." It sounds like Mazda is moving in the right direction for its future vehicles (like the 2011 Mazda3?).
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