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I have the Celestial Blue and when i go out the car still gets looks, even a cop on highway 480 took his eye off the gun for speeders looked at the car which i thought it was funny. Can anyone tell me what they do when they get there mileage, I take the miles into the gals to get the average? the most i have gotten was 36 combined doing the speed limit at 60. 
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Replying to: unicorn62 (Sep 24, 2009 6:57 am) because if you calculated that number by simply dividing your miles by gallons pumped, you would have to have gotten a colossal amount of miles on that tank! thats the same way i do mine.....but i have a hard time beliveing you're COMBINED average is 7 mpg more than what the 3 is supposed to get on the highway.
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Replying to: unicorn62 (Sep 24, 2009 6:57 am) FWIW, the best single tank mileage figure that I've managed on my 2009 Mazda3 i Touring 5-Speed was during a trip from southern New Hampshire to Manhattan and back. During that trip I ran at about 75 mph for about 80% of the time and was stuck in heavy traffic for the remainder. When fill-up time came, I managed a calculated 38.1 MPG. I'm thinking that if I'd had a straight shot with no traffic and slowed it down a bit, I could easily have managed over 40 MPG. Best regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 23, 2009 9:16 am) That is not a complete statement. First off, 0-60 is not the tell-all of performance. How about trap speeds like 40-70 or 50-80? Those type of tests simulate passing someone on the highway. You need torque to do that, something the Civic has non of. Second, you cannot pull one test from a magazine and say that the Civic mtx is the fasted in the segment, because it is not true. Why don't we look at head-to-hear comparo's and see how it stacks up. The older Mazda 2.3L was almost a full second faster then the Civic in most comparo's. I have yet to find a 2010 Mazda3 comparo against any of the current compacts. Lastly, a 2010 Mazda3 i Touring with the moon roof / bose audio system has just as much content as a Civic EX and gets almost the same fuel economy while boasting a HP and TQ advantage. The Mazda3 s is simply at a whole other level that the Civic does not offer anything to compete with. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 24, 2009 9:04 am) Last year when I bought my 2009 Mazda3 i Touring 5-Speed, I compared it against a Civic EX 5-Speed (the EX model because one of my requirements was disc brakes at all four corners), and even if the price of the two car had been similar, I would have chosen the Mazda. Funny thing though, I had already decided on buying the Honda and drove the Mazda almost as an afterthought. Wow was I surprised. Simply put, the Mazda out performed the Honda in pretty much every performance metric except EPA fuel economy, was significantly less expensive, and had roughly the same features. Long story short, the Honda salesman wasn't at all happy when I told him I was going across the street to the combined Ford/Mazda dealership, and he told me that I'd regret my decision. Ummm, yeah, well here I am nearly a year later and I have no such regrets.  Best regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 24, 2009 7:33 am) |
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Replying to: belle11 (Sep 23, 2009 3:27 pm) As far as beige interiors go, this is one of the better looking ones...but I'm just not a fan of light-colored interiors. The majority of the dashboard is black, just the glovebox and area under the steering column are beige. The top half of the doors are also black, which gives it an upscale two-tone look. The carpeting and seat belts are also black, so it's not just a vast sea of beige in there! If I was getting a Grand Touring model (leather) and lived in a very hot/sunny climate, I might consider it because the black leather would not be fun! But the black interior just fits the car so well... |
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Replying to: unicorn62 (Sep 24, 2009 6:57 am) When I bought my '06 5-door, I had my heart set on "Winning Blue" (offered '04-'06). It's very similar to the Celestial Blue and looked amazing! But they were very hard to find, especially a Sport/Touring model with no options and manual transmission! Thru '06, s models with cloth seats had a checkered fabric that was either red/black or blue/black depending on exterior color. I didn't care for the blue/black with the Winning Blue and my only other option was to get black leather, which would have been miserable in the Georgia heat...so I went with my second choice- Titanium Gray with red/black checked seats.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 24, 2009 9:04 am) oh i completely agree, that was my point! you cant just assume that because x car has more hp and torque its automatically the fastest in class. and trap speeds are super important, i only mentioned the 0-60 stint because it was the first test of speed that came to mind. actually, my old civic had a decent amount of passing power, because it liked to rev. mazdas seem to typically have more low and midrange grunt. somepeople think revving the engine is a chore, i didn't, the r18 in the civic was more than willing. at any rate, that doesn't mean the civic is techincally faster than the 3 in that regard, but its not slouch either. (the car and driver time i guess would have been chastized less if i compared it to the 7.6 sec or so 0-60 they got out of a 3s?) another thing to note is that the civic makes VERY decent hp and torque.................considering its engine size. the 2.0 in the new 3 makes what, like 6-8lbs more? thats not so much more to merit saying 'the civic has no torque' in comparison. if you REALLY want to get techincal, the civic's 1.8 is making more hp AND torque per litre than either the 2.0 or 2.5 in the mazdas. take into consideration weight as well. a m/t i sport weighs in at 2868 lbs. an lx-s m/t weighs in at 2687lbs thats an almost 200lb difference. with that much weight, the 3's 7lb-ft torque advantage and 8hp advantage dont exactly translate into a faster 0-60 or trap speed.(i know gearing plays into this as well, and like you said, no current tests of the new car pitted against the civic, this is just for discussions sake.) granted, this is before we take into consideration the 2.5 motor, and i totally agree that honda needs to step it up and offer something below the si with a larger r or k series motor,(granted it wouldnt' have to be a 2.5 like the 3 if the weight is kept down, a 155hp 2.0 should be fine.)SO you are totally correct: honda does not really have anything to counter the mazda 3 S, or any large engined compact. (with the exception of the xrs corolla, as they market that as their 'performance' corolla and the 'performance' civic, the si, blows it away in comparsion.) i'm just comparing the smaller motors since they are closer in spec and fuel economy. (even though the numbers support the notion that 1.8 civics can techincally run with the old 2.3, and even the numbers the 2.5 is putting out. granted this means little to me as i dont drive m/t and all these numbers are coming from said equipped cars. and in that regard, an a/t 3 should basically be faster with either engine.) so basically it boils down to the civic not having SO MUCH BETTER mpg that it outweighs the benefits of having a larger, stouter motor, and that the 3's engine is not SO MUCH MORE powerful than the civic to say that is is that much quicker in any real test of speed. phew. anyway aviboy, good points avi, though i want to reiterate that i never said the civic was the fastest in the segment, i was simply stating that the time c&d got was faster than any of the times we had quoted here. and in the same way 0-60 does not tell the whole story, the same goes for hp and torque advantages. avi i do have a question for you though....you have a mazda6 right? w/ leather? i love driving my mother in laws v-6 6s...does the steering in the new 3 S feel weighty like that? and what about the leather quality? is it on par with YOUR six or is the quality of the 3's leather even better than that? one of the links creakid posted was a review that stated that the interior of the new 3 could not hold a candle to the new golf...which im pretty sure is correct as its supossed to be ultra nice, but given that i'm driving a fit, which is by no means terrible, it doesnt seem to have the same level of quality or richness/upscaleness the new 3 has.
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Sep 24, 2009 12:28 pm) hmmm....winning blue is bascially the same shade of blue thats on my honda fit (vivid blue) celestial blue looks very different imo, and not as nice as the winning blue or the darker metallic blue they release on the 3. but to each his own, i think it makes the car look cartoonish. the gunmetal blue, graphite, white and black seem excellent though. |
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