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with regards to mpg by eldaino2
Sep 23, 2009 (9:16 am)
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i agree, the mazda is basically on par with the larger engined cars in the class.
 
granted, for discussions sake, getting the 'top teir' mazda would include the larger engine...whereas having the top level civic would still get you a car netting over 35mpg on the highway which IS a 5-6 gallon advantage.
 
anywho, i think everyone is putting to much emphasis on horsepower.
 
acceleration times are what matters. i dont care if you have x amount of hp or tq more than me. if your car weighs 3 tons it wont matter! the civic is actually very leith compared to a lot of modern cars, (c&d got a 7.7 0-60 run out of a m/t lx, faster than any of the cars mentioned here.)
 
take the forte for example. sure class leading mpg and power given the engine size....but what kind of gear ratios are they using to acheive it? how slow is it going to be? what kind of engine note does it emit? is the cabin a nicer place to spend time in than the 3( my guess is probably not given the pictures.)?
 
and just for everyones fyi, the new 2010 jetta with a six speed auto is now rated at 23/30. i'm guessing the new golf will do the same.and thats with an extra cylinder. so it techincally edges the 3. (i'm comparing it now because we have solid evidence on how fast golfs/rabbits go when equipped said way, and how fast the 3 hatch is.)
 
the 3's fuel ecnomony is defintely a gearing thing. but it adds to the appeal. sportier driving experience, even more so than the golf, which will probably still be fun to toss around, but it will be more reserved in that dept.
 
but the golf is an epic highway cruiser. (i know backy can back me up on that.) my choice between these two cars really comes down to that. will the tossability of the mazda make it so fun it outshines the golf's composure at highspeeds and overall luxury? or will the interior of the golf blow me away to the point where the mazda will feel like a larger, slightly nicer version of my fit?
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Re: car color [aviboy97] by belle11
Sep 23, 2009 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 23, 2009 9:15 am)

igozoom and aviboy
 
Thanks for your input. I guess copper red is out for me because I don't want a beige interior.
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My mazda3 Sport by unicorn62
Sep 24, 2009 (6:57 am)
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I have the Celestial Blue and when i go out the car still gets looks, even a cop on highway 480 took his eye off the gun for speeders looked at the car which i thought it was funny. Can anyone tell me what they do when they get there mileage, I take the miles into the gals to get the average? the most i have gotten was 36 combined doing the speed limit at 60.
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Re: My mazda3 Sport [unicorn62] by eldaino2
Sep 24, 2009 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: unicorn62 (Sep 24, 2009 6:57 am)

is that based of your mpg gauge?
 
because if you calculated that number by simply dividing your miles by gallons pumped, you would have to have gotten a colossal amount of miles on that tank!
 
thats the same way i do mine.....but i have a hard time beliveing you're COMBINED average is 7 mpg more than what the 3 is supposed to get on the highway.
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Re: My mazda3 Sport [unicorn62] by shipo
Sep 24, 2009 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: unicorn62 (Sep 24, 2009 6:57 am)

Miles driven divided by the number of gallons the pump indicates at the following fill-up gives a reasonably accurate MPG figure (distorted only by the differences where the pump happens to click-off). A better/more accurate way to calculate MPG is to spread the average out over say five tanks of fuel.
 
FWIW, the best single tank mileage figure that I've managed on my 2009 Mazda3 i Touring 5-Speed was during a trip from southern New Hampshire to Manhattan and back. During that trip I ran at about 75 mph for about 80% of the time and was stuck in heavy traffic for the remainder. When fill-up time came, I managed a calculated 38.1 MPG. I'm thinking that if I'd had a straight shot with no traffic and slowed it down a bit, I could easily have managed over 40 MPG.
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: with regards to mpg [eldaino2] by aviboy97
Sep 24, 2009 (9:04 am)
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 23, 2009 9:16 am)

acceleration times are what matters. i dont care if you have x amount of hp or tq more than me. if your car weighs 3 tons it wont matter! the civic is actually very leith compared to a lot of modern cars, (c&d got a 7.7 0-60 run out of a m/t lx, faster than any of the cars mentioned here.)
 
That is not a complete statement.
 
First off, 0-60 is not the tell-all of performance. How about trap speeds like 40-70 or 50-80? Those type of tests simulate passing someone on the highway. You need torque to do that, something the Civic has non of.
 
Second, you cannot pull one test from a magazine and say that the Civic mtx is the fasted in the segment, because it is not true. Why don't we look at head-to-hear comparo's and see how it stacks up. The older Mazda 2.3L was almost a full second faster then the Civic in most comparo's. I have yet to find a 2010 Mazda3 comparo against any of the current compacts.
 
Lastly, a 2010 Mazda3 i Touring with the moon roof / bose audio system has just as much content as a Civic EX and gets almost the same fuel economy while boasting a HP and TQ advantage. The Mazda3 s is simply at a whole other level that the Civic does not offer anything to compete with.
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Re: with regards to mpg [aviboy97] by shipo
Sep 24, 2009 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 24, 2009 9:04 am)

I completely concur.
 
Last year when I bought my 2009 Mazda3 i Touring 5-Speed, I compared it against a Civic EX 5-Speed (the EX model because one of my requirements was disc brakes at all four corners), and even if the price of the two car had been similar, I would have chosen the Mazda. Funny thing though, I had already decided on buying the Honda and drove the Mazda almost as an afterthought. Wow was I surprised. Simply put, the Mazda out performed the Honda in pretty much every performance metric except EPA fuel economy, was significantly less expensive, and had roughly the same features.
 
Long story short, the Honda salesman wasn't at all happy when I told him I was going across the street to the combined Ford/Mazda dealership, and he told me that I'd regret my decision. Ummm, yeah, well here I am nearly a year later and I have no such regrets.
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: My mazda3 Sport [eldaino2] by unicorn62
Sep 24, 2009 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 24, 2009 7:33 am)

This is not based on the gauge and by the way my mazda is the 2010 mazda3s sport, I do my mileage every time i fill up. The best mileage i got was when i used shell gas. I do both city&highway driving, the lowest i got was 22 and the highest was 36 and i do the posted speed limit.
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Re: car color [belle11] by igozoomzoom
Sep 24, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: belle11 (Sep 23, 2009 3:27 pm)

For some reason, Copper Red is the only exterior color that comes ONLY with Dune (beige) interior...all others have Black or offer a choice of either interior.
 
As far as beige interiors go, this is one of the better looking ones...but I'm just not a fan of light-colored interiors. The majority of the dashboard is black, just the glovebox and area under the steering column are beige. The top half of the doors are also black, which gives it an upscale two-tone look. The carpeting and seat belts are also black, so it's not just a vast sea of beige in there! If I was getting a Grand Touring model (leather) and lived in a very hot/sunny climate, I might consider it because the black leather would not be fun! But the black interior just fits the car so well...
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Re: My mazda3 Sport [unicorn62] by igozoomzoom
Sep 24, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: unicorn62 (Sep 24, 2009 6:57 am)

Celestial Blue is the best looking color, especially on the 5-door. It just "fits" the car so well and, as you mention, it's an attention grabber! Probably not the best choice for a speeder, much like the Velocity Red!
 
When I bought my '06 5-door, I had my heart set on "Winning Blue" (offered '04-'06). It's very similar to the Celestial Blue and looked amazing! But they were very hard to find, especially a Sport/Touring model with no options and manual transmission! Thru '06, s models with cloth seats had a checkered fabric that was either red/black or blue/black depending on exterior color. I didn't care for the blue/black with the Winning Blue and my only other option was to get black leather, which would have been miserable in the Georgia heat...so I went with my second choice- Titanium Gray with red/black checked seats.

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