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Re: End of conversation ... not [jeffyscott] by aviboy97
Sep 16, 2009 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 15, 2009 4:17 pm)

This shows a 3 mpg improvement for the Mazda3 over a 2002 Protege.
 
While boasting more power, don't forget.
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Re: End of conversation ... not [jeffyscott] by autonomous
Sep 16, 2009 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 15, 2009 4:17 pm)

If you look at the MPG on fueleconomy.gov, they have adjusted the older figures to estimate what they would be under the new protocol. This shows a 3 mpg improvement for the Mazda3 over a 2002 Protege.
 
Partially true: compared to my 2002 Mazda P5 2L automatic, the 2010 Mazda3 automatic gets 27 combined for the 2L and 25 for the 2.5L which means the improvement in fuel economy is between 1 and 3 mpg. This represents in 8 years a slight change in fuel economy (from 24 mpg to 25 is negligible; from 24 to 27 is a little over 10%).
 
My point is rather than boosting the engine size for its 2010 Mazda3 to 2.5L Mazda could have chosen to significantly improve its fuel economy (by for example reducing the weight of the car). Let's see compacts under 3000 pounds and above 30 mpg; even better how does 35 or 40 mpg sound! Mazda knows how to improve its vehicles: see the newest "light weight" M5 (Miata) at the Frankfurt Auto show.
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Re: End of conversation ... not [autonomous] by jeffyscott
Sep 16, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 16, 2009 9:22 am)

Yes, I was only comparing the ones with the same engine, the 2L.
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Re: End of conversation ... not [creakid1] by aviboy97
Sep 21, 2009 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: creakid1 (Sep 15, 2009 9:48 am)

creakid1-
 
Mazda confirmed last week that the Mazda2 is coming to the U.S. and Canada in late 2010.
 
The North American spec Mazda2 will be shown at the L.A. Auto Show, which is in December.
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Re: End of conversation ... not [autonomous] by autonomous
Sep 21, 2009 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 16, 2009 9:22 am)

Let's see compacts under 3000 pounds and above 30 mpg
 
Here's an interesting excerpt from Don Romano, head of Mazda Canada, which talks about Mazda's strategy for the immediate future including how it will respond to consumer and government demands for better fuel efficiency including weight reduction in vehicles. Bravo to Mr. Romano and Mazda!
 
"While the tough economy we are experiencing attacks the automotive industry on one flank, on the other side of the battlefield is the challenge posed by new government regulations to improve fuel economy and reduce carbon emissions. Mazda's environmental "Sustainable Zoom Zoom" strategy was announced in the fall of 2007. It is based on the assumption that for the rest of this decade, and probably most of the next decade, the vast majority of vehicles sold around the world will be powered by an internal combustion engine. Consequently, Mazda's approach is to make every vehicle it builds as environmentally friendly as possible - as well as fun to drive. Therefore, in the short term we will concentrate on making our gasoline and diesel engines as fuel efficient as possible. Beginning in 2011, Mazda will introduce a new generation of powertrains that, along with improvements in vehicle design and weight reduction, will see an improvement in fuel efficiency of 30 per cent compared to current vehicles. Current test results done on prototype engines indicate that Mazda will meet this objective when the new powertrains are introduced in mass-production vehicles."
 
Published in the Montreal Gazette Saturday Sept. 19, 2009
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car color by belle11
Sep 22, 2009 (5:03 pm)
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hey aviboy97 -
 
I was reading through the posts and I saw where you said that you thought the gunmetal blue color would sell well. How is that color selling?
 
I'm trying to decide which color I like the most and was just wondering which colors have been the most popular? I wanted to see the copper red in person but haven't been able to find one. How does it look in person?
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Re: car color [belle11] by igozoomzoom
Sep 22, 2009 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: belle11 (Sep 22, 2009 5:03 pm)

I hope you don't mind me offering my opinion, since you directed your question to aviboy....
 
I'm pretty sure that the Copper Red on the new 2010 is the same color offered on the 2008-2009 model. I finally saw it on a 2010 5-door and it looks identical. Personally, darker reds don't appeal to me, so it's not one of my favorites...but I doubt they'd continue to offer it on the 2010 if they didn't sell more than a couple of 2008/2009 models in the color!
 
I'm glad to see a real ("bright") red back in the lineup- Velocity Red! VR was offered on the '04-'06 models and a similar color called True Red was available on '07-'08 models, but only Copper Red in '09...it looks fantastic, to my eyes at least!
 
I thought Gunmetal Blue would be my favorite color on the 2010 based on the photos and color samples. While I like it, it almost seems a bit bland for the character of the car (especially on the 5-door). The Celestial Blue is very sharp, but I could see it growing old after a few years (and it looks awesome on the 5-door, but just okay on the 4-door).
 
If I was buying one today (it would be a 5-door Sport), I would most likely go with the Graphite Mica! It looks sporty on the 5-door and classy/upscale on the 4-door. Then again, my '06 Mazda3 s 5-door is Titanium Gray, so gray-tones obviously appeal to me.
 
Interior color could also be a factor in the exterior color choice. For example, Copper Red is only available with the Dune (Beige) interior. Crystal White Pearl, Black and Graphite have the choice of Black or Dune interior. All other colors have Black interior, if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: car color [belle11] by aviboy97
Sep 23, 2009 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: belle11 (Sep 22, 2009 5:03 pm)

I was reading through the posts and I saw where you said that you thought the gunmetal blue color would sell well. How is that color selling?
 
The Gunmetal Blue has been popular. We have sold quite a bit, as has Mazda.
 
I'm trying to decide which color I like the most and was just wondering which colors have been the most popular? I wanted to see the copper red in person but haven't been able to find one. How does it look in person?
 
Copper Red is not as popular this year as it has in years past. I'm guessing because it only comes with a beige interior. It does look nice, but, other colors such as the gunmetal, graphite and crystal white have been more popular.
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with regards to mpg by eldaino2
Sep 23, 2009 (9:16 am)
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i agree, the mazda is basically on par with the larger engined cars in the class.
 
granted, for discussions sake, getting the 'top teir' mazda would include the larger engine...whereas having the top level civic would still get you a car netting over 35mpg on the highway which IS a 5-6 gallon advantage.
 
anywho, i think everyone is putting to much emphasis on horsepower.
 
acceleration times are what matters. i dont care if you have x amount of hp or tq more than me. if your car weighs 3 tons it wont matter! the civic is actually very leith compared to a lot of modern cars, (c&d got a 7.7 0-60 run out of a m/t lx, faster than any of the cars mentioned here.)
 
take the forte for example. sure class leading mpg and power given the engine size....but what kind of gear ratios are they using to acheive it? how slow is it going to be? what kind of engine note does it emit? is the cabin a nicer place to spend time in than the 3( my guess is probably not given the pictures.)?
 
and just for everyones fyi, the new 2010 jetta with a six speed auto is now rated at 23/30. i'm guessing the new golf will do the same.and thats with an extra cylinder. so it techincally edges the 3. (i'm comparing it now because we have solid evidence on how fast golfs/rabbits go when equipped said way, and how fast the 3 hatch is.)
 
the 3's fuel ecnomony is defintely a gearing thing. but it adds to the appeal. sportier driving experience, even more so than the golf, which will probably still be fun to toss around, but it will be more reserved in that dept.
 
but the golf is an epic highway cruiser. (i know backy can back me up on that.) my choice between these two cars really comes down to that. will the tossability of the mazda make it so fun it outshines the golf's composure at highspeeds and overall luxury? or will the interior of the golf blow me away to the point where the mazda will feel like a larger, slightly nicer version of my fit?
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Re: car color [aviboy97] by belle11
Sep 23, 2009 (3:27 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 23, 2009 9:15 am)

igozoom and aviboy
 
Thanks for your input. I guess copper red is out for me because I don't want a beige interior.

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