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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 12, 2009 11:42 am) Agreed. Good ... not great fuel economy. As consumers let's continue to demand that auto manufacturers do better here. Bumping up the horsepower and keeping the same fuel economy is not an improvement; my 2002 Mazda Protege5 has the same rating (25mpg) as the 2010 Mazda3 s. Toyota is on its 3rd generation of Prius, Honda has produced a hybrid Civic. Mazda's response seems out of step with the times. On the other hand, I welcome the arrival of the lighter Mazda2!
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 15, 2009 9:00 am) We'll get "the better Mazda2" soon: (hint: it's the winner in this 4-car comparison test)  4th http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/241339/vw_polo_se_16_tdi_75.h- - tml 3rd http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/241327/mazda_2_sport_16d.html- - 2nd http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/241333/renault_clio_dynamique- - _15_dci_86.html 1st http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/241336/ford_fiesta_zetec_16_t- - dci.html http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/15fiph2HIqsAVzq1ZFJ Yes, in the cheap world w/o multi-link rear suspension, it's hard to find a car that rides smoother than the Mazda2 while providing more steering feel. By the way, '02's EPA mpg is not as conservatively rated as in recent years.
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Replying to: creakid1 (Sep 15, 2009 9:48 am) Interesting article. Mazda2, Ford Fiesta, Renault Clio, VW Polo ... wouldn't it be a treat to have all of these choices? By the way, '02's EPA mpg is not as conservatively rated as in recent years. Agreed, that's why I prefer Consumer Reports ratings. According to CR there has been no improvement in the combined highway/city mileage of the current Mazda3 s over my 2002 Mazda Protege5.
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 15, 2009 1:54 pm)
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My 2000 Civic gets the worst mpg, b/c I couldn't stand it's lack of low-end thrust. So I kept revving everytime I accelerate! My '98 Corolla gets even better mpg than my '90 Protege DOHC (36mpg cruising on the fwy), not just the hwy top-gear low-rpm gearing (good for at least 40mpg cruising on the fwy). But its power below 2000rpm is locomotive strong, more so than my Focus ST's 2.3, which is already a Mazda 2.3 engine retuned with extra low-end torque! So I usually upshift my Corolla just past 2000rpm. & even when passing other cars in the traffic, I almost never have to rev past 2900rpm! |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 15, 2009 4:17 pm) While boasting more power, don't forget. |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 15, 2009 4:17 pm) Partially true: compared to my 2002 Mazda P5 2L automatic, the 2010 Mazda3 automatic gets 27 combined for the 2L and 25 for the 2.5L which means the improvement in fuel economy is between 1 and 3 mpg. This represents in 8 years a slight change in fuel economy (from 24 mpg to 25 is negligible; from 24 to 27 is a little over 10%). My point is rather than boosting the engine size for its 2010 Mazda3 to 2.5L Mazda could have chosen to significantly improve its fuel economy (by for example reducing the weight of the car). Let's see compacts under 3000 pounds and above 30 mpg; even better how does 35 or 40 mpg sound! Mazda knows how to improve its vehicles: see the newest "light weight" M5 (Miata) at the Frankfurt Auto show.
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 16, 2009 9:22 am) |
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Replying to: creakid1 (Sep 15, 2009 9:48 am) Mazda confirmed last week that the Mazda2 is coming to the U.S. and Canada in late 2010. The North American spec Mazda2 will be shown at the L.A. Auto Show, which is in December. |
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 16, 2009 9:22 am) Here's an interesting excerpt from Don Romano, head of Mazda Canada, which talks about Mazda's strategy for the immediate future including how it will respond to consumer and government demands for better fuel efficiency including weight reduction in vehicles. Bravo to Mr. Romano and Mazda! "While the tough economy we are experiencing attacks the automotive industry on one flank, on the other side of the battlefield is the challenge posed by new government regulations to improve fuel economy and reduce carbon emissions. Mazda's environmental "Sustainable Zoom Zoom" strategy was announced in the fall of 2007. It is based on the assumption that for the rest of this decade, and probably most of the next decade, the vast majority of vehicles sold around the world will be powered by an internal combustion engine. Consequently, Mazda's approach is to make every vehicle it builds as environmentally friendly as possible - as well as fun to drive. Therefore, in the short term we will concentrate on making our gasoline and diesel engines as fuel efficient as possible. Beginning in 2011, Mazda will introduce a new generation of powertrains that, along with improvements in vehicle design and weight reduction, will see an improvement in fuel efficiency of 30 per cent compared to current vehicles. Current test results done on prototype engines indicate that Mazda will meet this objective when the new powertrains are introduced in mass-production vehicles." Published in the Montreal Gazette Saturday Sept. 19, 2009
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