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Replying to: autonomous (Aug 21, 2009 10:33 am) How funny everyone forgets that the Mazda3 i has a 25/33 mpg rating with MORE power then Corolla and Civic. Last I checked, a 25/33 rating is not considered "not great". Please, do not bring up the Mazda3 s either, it gets the same fuel economy as the Corolla S and has more power then the Corolla S. As for resale, the Mazda3 is on par with the Corolla and Civic. MAZDA3 GETS GOOD FUEL ECONOMY!!!!! PERIOD, END OF CONVERSATION!!!!!!!! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
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Consumer Reports is also a great source of real fuel economy ratings! Based on their tests, here's a look at the Mazda3 and some competitors- City/Highway/Overall Average (all tested on the same roads, same speed, etc.) Corolla LE 4AT - 23/40/32 Civic EX 5AT - 18/43/28 Mazda3 i 5AT- 21/39/28 Hyundai Elantra GLS 4AT- 18/36/27 Nissan Sentra 2.0S CVT- 18/34/26 Ford Focus SES 4AT- 18/35/26 Mitsubishi Lancer ES CVT- 17/34/25 So the Corolla is the champ of them all by 4mpg overall...but you should also factor in the co-pay for the anti-depressant you'll be needing very soon! The Mazda3 i is a match for the Civic overall at 28mpg; and the Civic does a bit better on the highway, but the MZ3 is quite a bit better in the city! The Elantra, Sentra, Focus and Lancer all trail behind the top three. Obviously the Mazda3 s isn't quite as fuel efficient as the 2.0L 148hp i model. But compared to other models with engines of similar size and/or power, it's very competitive- Toyota Matrix S 5AT- 19/35/26 (2.4L 158hp) Mazda3 s Sport 5AT- 17/34/25 (2.5L 170hp) VW Rabbit S 6AT – 16/32/24 (2.5L 170hp) Subaru Impreza 2.5i 4AT- 17/31/24 (2.5L 170hp) As for resale value, the Mazda3 depreciates less than any other Mazda vehicle. I have been very surprised at how well my 2006 Mazda3 s 5-door has held its value, especially since I had only owned Hondas in the past! According to the Edmunds TCO depreciation projections, the Civic, Corolla and Mazda3 will be will be worth the following percentage of their original cost: Civic LX-S 5AT- 65.4% Toyota Corolla XLE 4AT- 64.8% Mazda3 i Touring 5AT- 66.0% Considering that projections have some margin of error, I think it's fair to say that any difference in residual values will be immaterial! Note- I chose the specific trim levels above because their purchase prices were the closest ($19,358-$19.836). A Civic EX is almost identical at 66.1%, while a Corolla LE drops 2.6% to 62.2%... Now I've done way too much math for an early Sunday morning and I need a nap. 
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 12, 2009 11:42 am) Agreed. Good ... not great fuel economy. As consumers let's continue to demand that auto manufacturers do better here. Bumping up the horsepower and keeping the same fuel economy is not an improvement; my 2002 Mazda Protege5 has the same rating (25mpg) as the 2010 Mazda3 s. Toyota is on its 3rd generation of Prius, Honda has produced a hybrid Civic. Mazda's response seems out of step with the times. On the other hand, I welcome the arrival of the lighter Mazda2!
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 15, 2009 9:00 am) We'll get "the better Mazda2" soon: (hint: it's the winner in this 4-car comparison test) 4th http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/241339/vw_polo_se_16_tdi_75.h- - tml 3rd http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/241327/mazda_2_sport_16d.html- - 2nd http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/241333/renault_clio_dynamique- - _15_dci_86.html 1st http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/241336/ford_fiesta_zetec_16_t- - dci.html http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/15fiph2HIqsAVzq1ZFJ Yes, in the cheap world w/o multi-link rear suspension, it's hard to find a car that rides smoother than the Mazda2 while providing more steering feel. By the way, '02's EPA mpg is not as conservatively rated as in recent years.
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Replying to: creakid1 (Sep 15, 2009 9:48 am) Interesting article. Mazda2, Ford Fiesta, Renault Clio, VW Polo ... wouldn't it be a treat to have all of these choices? By the way, '02's EPA mpg is not as conservatively rated as in recent years. Agreed, that's why I prefer Consumer Reports ratings. According to CR there has been no improvement in the combined highway/city mileage of the current Mazda3 s over my 2002 Mazda Protege5.
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Replying to: autonomous (Sep 15, 2009 1:54 pm)
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My 2000 Civic gets the worst mpg, b/c I couldn't stand it's lack of low-end thrust. So I kept revving everytime I accelerate! My '98 Corolla gets even better mpg than my '90 Protege DOHC (36mpg cruising on the fwy), not just the hwy top-gear low-rpm gearing (good for at least 40mpg cruising on the fwy). But its power below 2000rpm is locomotive strong, more so than my Focus ST's 2.3, which is already a Mazda 2.3 engine retuned with extra low-end torque! So I usually upshift my Corolla just past 2000rpm. & even when passing other cars in the traffic, I almost never have to rev past 2900rpm! |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 15, 2009 4:17 pm) While boasting more power, don't forget. |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 15, 2009 4:17 pm) Partially true: compared to my 2002 Mazda P5 2L automatic, the 2010 Mazda3 automatic gets 27 combined for the 2L and 25 for the 2.5L which means the improvement in fuel economy is between 1 and 3 mpg. This represents in 8 years a slight change in fuel economy (from 24 mpg to 25 is negligible; from 24 to 27 is a little over 10%). My point is rather than boosting the engine size for its 2010 Mazda3 to 2.5L Mazda could have chosen to significantly improve its fuel economy (by for example reducing the weight of the car). Let's see compacts under 3000 pounds and above 30 mpg; even better how does 35 or 40 mpg sound! Mazda knows how to improve its vehicles: see the newest "light weight" M5 (Miata) at the Frankfurt Auto show.
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