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Mazda3 indicator illumination by murray15
Aug 02, 2009 (5:56 am)
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On 2010 Mazda3 I Touring -- are the white on black indicators on the interior of the front doors supposed to illuminate at night so that they can be seen? (ie. mirror controls). They do so on our Honda Civic but they don't on the Mazda3 -- and we're trying to figure out if the indicators on the front door just aren't supposed to illuminate, or whether there is a problem. It can be challenging at night without the indicators on door being able to be seen. Thanks.
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Re: Mazda3 indicator illumination [murray15] by jbbevel
Aug 03, 2009 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: murray15 (Aug 02, 2009 5:56 am)

Not sure about the i Touring... I have the Sport Hatchback and the illumination of the door handles (including the windows, and mirror adjustment) is done by a cool blue light that lights up at night. It's easy to see, and gives a very cool effect. There's also a directed blue light that lights up my manual stick shift... It's very cool.
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reliability customer satisfaction surveys by movinout77
Aug 18, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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I thought I was just a few days from buying a new Mazda 3, but now I'm not so sure.
 
I've read that JD Power & Associates rates the Mazda 3 as being much less reliable than some of the other cars I'm considering (e.g., Corolla, Civic).
 
I also just read an article that came out today that Mazda is among the worst in terms of a recent customer satisfaction survey.
 
Yet, this car seems to get great reviews everywhere. Are the reviewers weighing performance and other factors much more heavily than reliability? This is not the way I'd prioritize things as a long-time Toyota guy who can't seem to get a fair price on a Corolla these days. Is there some sort of bias against Mazda in the way they came up with the ratings?
 
Thanks.
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Re: reliability customer satisfaction surveys [movinout77] by jeffyscott
Aug 18, 2009 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: movinout77 (Aug 18, 2009 2:36 pm)

I don't know how they could possibly be rating reliability, since it is a brand new model.
 
Car review generally are not about "reliability" at all. As far as I know CR is the only one that considers that in their recomendations, but even there it has nothing to do with how they rank the vehicles it's just that they will not recommend a car unles it gets at least an average rating on their reliability surveys.
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Re: reliability customer satisfaction surveys [jeffyscott] by movinout77
Aug 18, 2009 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 18, 2009 3:39 pm)

Yeah, I can't imagine that these ratings would be based on the 2010's. Still, if the ratings are so low based on prior years' experience, I'm a bit hesitant to buy without knowing why.
 
Just out of curiosity, do you know where this car stands with respect to CR's recommendation?
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Re: reliability customer satisfaction surveys [movinout77] by jeffyscott
Aug 18, 2009 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: movinout77 (Aug 18, 2009 4:13 pm)

The hatchback was just reviewed in the august issue. It was ranked 6th, among
"small wagons and hatchbacks".
Ahead of it were:
Mazda5 Touring
Volkswagen Rabbit S
Toyota Prius Touring (2009)
Volkswagen Jetta SE (2.5)
Hyundai Elantra Touring
 
They also listed predicted reliability as above average.
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Re: reliability customer satisfaction surveys [movinout77] by autonomous
Aug 21, 2009 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: movinout77 (Aug 18, 2009 2:36 pm)

As others have mentioned here, Consumer Reports is the best place for auto reliability information. They have the largest user base and they have been doing their surveys for decades. J.D. Power provides more limited information; for example their initial quality survey covers the first 90 days of ownership.
 
The Mazda3 is one of the most reliable cars one can buy. There are, of course, caveats. Any new model is more prone to reliability issues than a model that has been around for a number of years. Since this model year is new for both the Toyota Corolla and Mazda3, you may consider waiting until the bugs are ironed out from a new model year. For more information, consult Consumer Reports.
 
Other important factors you may want to consider in comparing these vehicles are fuel efficiency and resale value, if you are planning to sell the car in the future. Mazda3 has good but not great fuel efficiency; the Corolla is better, the Civic Hybrid best. From a resale point of view the dynamic duo, Toyota and Honda, still reign supreme.
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Argh! by bgf
Sep 04, 2009 (4:15 pm)
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The Mazda3 is supposed to be a fun car. If I want to save gas alone, I'd walk or ride my bike for short trips.
 
I think we have beaten the MPG to death. Backy can by the Rogue or Corolla.
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Re: reliability customer satisfaction surveys [autonomous] by aviboy97
Sep 12, 2009 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Aug 21, 2009 10:33 am)

Mazda3 has good but not great fuel efficiency;
 
How funny everyone forgets that the Mazda3 i has a 25/33 mpg rating with MORE power then Corolla and Civic. Last I checked, a 25/33 rating is not considered "not great".
 
Please, do not bring up the Mazda3 s either, it gets the same fuel economy as the Corolla S and has more power then the Corolla S.
 
As for resale, the Mazda3 is on par with the Corolla and Civic.
 
MAZDA3 GETS GOOD FUEL ECONOMY!!!!! PERIOD, END OF CONVERSATION!!!!!!!! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
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Fuel Economy & Resale Value by igozoomzoom
Sep 13, 2009 (3:31 am)
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Consumer Reports is also a great source of real fuel economy ratings! Based on their tests, here's a look at the Mazda3 and some competitors-
 
City/Highway/Overall Average (all tested on the same roads, same speed, etc.)
 
Corolla LE 4AT - 23/40/32
Civic EX 5AT - 18/43/28
Mazda3 i 5AT- 21/39/28
Hyundai Elantra GLS 4AT- 18/36/27
Nissan Sentra 2.0S CVT- 18/34/26
Ford Focus SES 4AT- 18/35/26
Mitsubishi Lancer ES CVT- 17/34/25
 
So the Corolla is the champ of them all by 4mpg overall...but you should also factor in the co-pay for the anti-depressant you'll be needing very soon!
The Mazda3 i is a match for the Civic overall at 28mpg; and the Civic does a bit better on the highway, but the MZ3 is quite a bit better in the city! The Elantra, Sentra, Focus and Lancer all trail behind the top three.
 
Obviously the Mazda3 s isn't quite as fuel efficient as the 2.0L 148hp i model. But compared to other models with engines of similar size and/or power, it's very competitive-
 
Toyota Matrix S 5AT- 19/35/26 (2.4L 158hp)
Mazda3 s Sport 5AT- 17/34/25 (2.5L 170hp)
VW Rabbit S 6AT – 16/32/24 (2.5L 170hp)
Subaru Impreza 2.5i 4AT- 17/31/24 (2.5L 170hp)
 
As for resale value, the Mazda3 depreciates less than any other Mazda vehicle. I have been very surprised at how well my 2006 Mazda3 s 5-door has held its value, especially since I had only owned Hondas in the past!
 
According to the Edmunds TCO depreciation projections, the Civic, Corolla and Mazda3 will be will be worth the following percentage of their original cost:
 
Civic LX-S 5AT- 65.4%
Toyota Corolla XLE 4AT- 64.8%
Mazda3 i Touring 5AT- 66.0%
 
Considering that projections have some margin of error, I think it's fair to say that any difference in residual values will be immaterial! Note- I chose the specific trim levels above because their purchase prices were the closest ($19,358-$19.836). A Civic EX is almost identical at 66.1%, while a Corolla LE drops 2.6% to 62.2%...
 
Now I've done way too much math for an early Sunday morning and I need a nap.

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