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mazda3 sport by unicorn62
Jun 08, 2009 (7:51 am)
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I didn't just buy the mazda 3 sport for the " zoom zoom" if i need the power to merge on the highway the power is there as well in passing. I got the sport because the color i have you can only get in the s model. Like i said if mazda want to keep selling the 3 they need to work on the MPG's or people will look to other cars that do and mazda will lose people they had before. I'm happy with the style of the car but they need to work more on the MPG's!
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [igozoomzoom] by backy
Jun 08, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jun 08, 2009 12:49 am)

Quite a few buyers (based on sales figures) are willing to sacrifice a few mpg to get the "Zoom Zoom"!
 
Maybe if the Mazda3 had fuel economy on a par with the Civic/Corolla/Focus, we'd see the Mazda3 at or near the top of the small-car sales charts instead of those cars. A car can have both excellent fuel economy and crisp handling--Honda has proven that. Maybe Mazda could add an "HF" trim (high fuel economy) to the Mazda3 for people who want both, but wouldn't mind sacrificing some power to get it.
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [backy] by aviboy97
Jun 08, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 07, 2009 1:07 pm)

His post was not an opinion really, and nor was my remark. He made a claim that the Mazda3 cannot compete with the fuel economy it gets. Mazda has proven that to be not true. Nothing to dispute there.
 
I really try to shy away from "real world fuel economy", because it all depends on how you drive and where you live. Do you really think the majority of 2010 Fusion Hybrid owners are going to get over 1,400 miles per tank (over 80mgp average), like the drivers of the Fusion Hybrid experiment got? I think not. I know that example is a quite extreme, but, it is a case where driving habits influence fuel economy.
 
But, as far as the EPA is concerned, there is no compact that gets 39mpg. If there is a car that is rated that well, I would sure like to know!
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [backy] by aviboy97
Jun 08, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 08, 2009 9:12 am)

Let's see how far off Mazda is from those you mentioned.
 
Toyota Corolla LE: 26/35 (132hp/128tq) , XRS 22/30 (158hp/162tq)
Honda Civic: 26/34 (140hp/128tq)
Ford Focus: 24/35 (140hp/132tq)
 
Mazda3: i 25/33 (148hp/135tq) , s 21/29 (167hp/168tq)
 
With far more power and better proven performance then the listed above competition, and at most a 1mpg city and 2mpg highway fuel economy disadvantage, I think it's an absolute joke to say that the Mazda3 is not on par with the competition. It's not like we are talking about 5 or 6 mpgs here. 1 to 2 is the difference. Give me a break.....
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [aviboy97] by shipo
Jun 08, 2009 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 08, 2009 10:24 am)

"But, as far as the EPA is concerned, there is no compact that gets 39mpg. If there is a car that is rated that well, I would sure like to know!"
 
The 2009 VW Jetta TDI 6-Speed: 30 City, 34 Combined, 41 Highway.
 
Best regards,
Shipo
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [aviboy97] by backy
Jun 08, 2009 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 08, 2009 10:39 am)

Yes, the Mazda3's fuel economy is "on a par." It would be nice if it equalled or exceeded that of competitors that are of older design, like all of those you listed above, but that is asking for too much I guess.
 
I think it's weird though that Ford can get 34 mpg on a mid-sized sedan with an engine of comparable power to the Mazda3s, yet the Mazda3s gets 5 mpg less, yet is a lighter car.
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [shipo] by backy
Jun 08, 2009 (10:57 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 08, 2009 10:45 am)

Then there's the Insight and (mid-sized) Prius at over 39 mpg, but we digress.
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [backy] by jeffyscott
Jun 08, 2009 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 08, 2009 10:57 am)

That is an interesting point. As is how Ford gets 3 mpg (hwy) less for that very same midsize vehicle with the very same engine, but in a different trim level.
 
Also, oddly, the Fusion with 2.5 (non S) is rated at 22/31, while the Mazda3 with 2.5 engine is rated at 22/29. Yet both are at 25 mpg combined.
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [shipo] by aviboy97
Jun 08, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 08, 2009 10:45 am)

The 2009 VW Jetta TDI 6-Speed: 30 City, 34 Combined, 41 Highway.
 
I stand corrected!!!
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [backy] by aviboy97
Jun 08, 2009 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 08, 2009 10:57 am)

It would be nice if it equalled or exceeded that of competitors that are of older design, like all of those you listed above, but that is asking for too much I guess.
 
There is nothing wrong with wishing for that. In fact, I wish it were better as well. But, since the rest of the car is light years ahead of the others, it does not concern me. That is how Mazda builds and markets their cars.
 
As far as the age of each design goes, the Corolla and Focus are little over a calender year old. The Civic is the only one due for a redesign, probably next year.

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