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Gauging levels [roadburner] by autonomous
Jun 03, 2009 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jun 03, 2009 12:31 pm)

I guess it's OK for a commuter car or grocery getter, but when I'm on the track I want to know exactly what the coolant temperature is doing.
Precisely. I think you would agree most drivers being commuters would not run into this scenario, and, it would be safe to say, you're not the average grocery getter.
 
Personally, I'm waiting for the technology that slaps sense into drivers trying to manouevre through inner city traffic, construction sites, highways exits/entrances and the like while texting on a cellphone. This increases my temperature.
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [sonnyrocker] by usf813
Jun 05, 2009 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: sonnyrocker (Jun 02, 2009 7:45 pm)

I agree with you 100% sonnyrocker. Case in point. the temp gauge on my '97 Civic finally went above the water line and started approaching the redline. I've had the car since day 1 and this is the first time it's ever happened (and I do keep an eye on my gauges). It happened a half mile after leaving the house (was still warm from a previous trip) and I was able to pull off and slow down, before a major overheating, and make it back to my condo w/out cracking a head. Turns out the upper radiator hose and heater hose cracked and began leaking fluid. That gauge cost me $250 in repairs vs. thousands for a new engine.
 
I just don't understand how Mazda overlooked this! It's just seems so fundamental to me to include in an instrument display.
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2010 mazda3 by unicorn62
Jun 06, 2009 (3:52 pm)
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The 2010 mazda3 is a overall well done car, but the mpg needs to be there if mazda wants to compete with the cars that get 35 to 39 mpgs, that includes the both the i and s models. They should give you a choice on what size rim you want on the car. My overall mpg on the mazda3 sport is as low as 25 and as high is 30.The only thing i don't like is the 17' rims. If anyone needs tires for the 3 try Tirerack.com they have the tires for alot less than if you went to a tire store.
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [unicorn62] by aviboy97
Jun 07, 2009 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: unicorn62 (Jun 06, 2009 3:52 pm)

The 2010 mazda3 is a overall well done car, but the mpg needs to be there if mazda wants to compete with the cars that get 35 to 39 mpgs, that includes the both the i and s models
 
Considering that the Mazda3 is Mazda's best seller, and is considered one of the best cars in its class for 7 model years now, I really do not think that statement is true. Besides, what car in this class gets 39mpg? I can't think of one. Not even sub-compacts like the Fit or Yaris or Accent get that.
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [aviboy97] by backy
Jun 07, 2009 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 07, 2009 12:07 pm)

An opinion is neither "true" nor "false."
 
Several cars in this class can get 35 to 39 mpg on the highway: Civic, Corolla, Elantra, Focus for example can all reach upper 30s on the highway. Actually the Mazda3i can also, at least the pre-2010 cars could. And there are some mid-sized cars with power comparable or better than that of the Mazda3s that can get over 35 mpg on the highway. I am talking about real-world mpg vs. EPA here. If the original opinion was regarding average fuel economy or EPA numbers, then I agree that is a stretch for a car like the Mazda3 since there are few cars of any kind that hit those numbers.
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [backy] by igozoomzoom
Jun 08, 2009 (12:49 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 07, 2009 1:07 pm)

The 2.0L MZ3 'i' with 5-speed manual has an EPA highway rating of 33mpg. The highway rating drops to 29mpg for the 2.5L in the 's' models. For the sake of comparison, the Civic Si is also rated at 29mpg and the Toyota Matrix (2.4) gets 28mpg highway.
 
The Civic (1.8L) has an EPA highway estimate of 34mpg (manual) or 36mpg (automatic). Ford Focus, using the same 2.0L engine as the Mazda3 i (w/o VVT), gets 35mpg highway. So there's no question, that there are other small cars with better fuel economy than the Mazda3. But most (all, IMO) aren't nearly as much fun as to drive as the MZ3. Quite a few buyers (based on sales figures) are willing to sacrifice a few mpg to get the "Zoom Zoom"!
 
In most other markets (including Canada), Mazda offers the 2.0L engine in both the 4-door and 5-door bodystyles. The U.S.-spec 5-door is unusual having the 2.5L engine and 17" alloy wheels standard. In Canada, you can get a 5-door with 2.0L and 16" steel wheels. I'm surprised, especially considering current economic conditions, that Mazda didn't offer the entry-level 5-door model here in the U.S.
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mazda3 sport by unicorn62
Jun 08, 2009 (7:51 am)
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I didn't just buy the mazda 3 sport for the " zoom zoom" if i need the power to merge on the highway the power is there as well in passing. I got the sport because the color i have you can only get in the s model. Like i said if mazda want to keep selling the 3 they need to work on the MPG's or people will look to other cars that do and mazda will lose people they had before. I'm happy with the style of the car but they need to work more on the MPG's!
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [igozoomzoom] by backy
Jun 08, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jun 08, 2009 12:49 am)

Quite a few buyers (based on sales figures) are willing to sacrifice a few mpg to get the "Zoom Zoom"!
 
Maybe if the Mazda3 had fuel economy on a par with the Civic/Corolla/Focus, we'd see the Mazda3 at or near the top of the small-car sales charts instead of those cars. A car can have both excellent fuel economy and crisp handling--Honda has proven that. Maybe Mazda could add an "HF" trim (high fuel economy) to the Mazda3 for people who want both, but wouldn't mind sacrificing some power to get it.
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [backy] by aviboy97
Jun 08, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 07, 2009 1:07 pm)

His post was not an opinion really, and nor was my remark. He made a claim that the Mazda3 cannot compete with the fuel economy it gets. Mazda has proven that to be not true. Nothing to dispute there.
 
I really try to shy away from "real world fuel economy", because it all depends on how you drive and where you live. Do you really think the majority of 2010 Fusion Hybrid owners are going to get over 1,400 miles per tank (over 80mgp average), like the drivers of the Fusion Hybrid experiment got? I think not. I know that example is a quite extreme, but, it is a case where driving habits influence fuel economy.
 
But, as far as the EPA is concerned, there is no compact that gets 39mpg. If there is a car that is rated that well, I would sure like to know!
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Re: 2010 mazda3 [backy] by aviboy97
Jun 08, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 08, 2009 9:12 am)

Let's see how far off Mazda is from those you mentioned.
 
Toyota Corolla LE: 26/35 (132hp/128tq) , XRS 22/30 (158hp/162tq)
Honda Civic: 26/34 (140hp/128tq)
Ford Focus: 24/35 (140hp/132tq)
 
Mazda3: i 25/33 (148hp/135tq) , s 21/29 (167hp/168tq)
 
With far more power and better proven performance then the listed above competition, and at most a 1mpg city and 2mpg highway fuel economy disadvantage, I think it's an absolute joke to say that the Mazda3 is not on par with the competition. It's not like we are talking about 5 or 6 mpgs here. 1 to 2 is the difference. Give me a break.....

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