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Re: not impressed with the '10 [usf813] by aviboy97
Jun 01, 2009 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: usf813 (May 30, 2009 6:40 pm)

Ummm what happens if the car starts to overheat? How on earth are you going to pull off the road and turn the darn thing off before you start seeing smoke?
 
There is an overheating light that will come on if the engine starts to run hot.
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [usf813] by igozoomzoom
Jun 01, 2009 (8:46 pm)
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Replying to: usf813 (May 30, 2009 6:40 pm)

To be honest, a warning light is probably more effective than a coolant temperature gauge. Most drivers don't keep a constant eye on the temp gauge, but a warning light will be noticed immediately. Just think about how many miles you could travel with the needle pegged on 'H' (Hot) before you noticed....
 
Since you prefer the '09 bodystyle over the new 2010 model, you're in luck! You can get a GREAT DEAL on an '09 (temp gauge and all)!
 
The '09 model is actually called the Touring Value (replaced the regular 'Touring' in the 2008.5 mid-year refresh). The 'Value' model upgraded the following compared to the "i Touring" trim level that it replaced:
 
Leather-wrapped shift knob
Leather-wrapped steering wheel
Piano black interior trim panel
17" Alloy Wheels (from the 's' Touring/Grand Touring)
P205/50VR17 tires (vs. previous P205/55HR16)
Body-colored grille (vs. black)
Fog lights
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)*
Side-Impact Airbags (SAB) & Side Airbag Curtains (SAC)*
Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD)*
*previously optional on i Touring models as the "ABS/SAB/SAC Package".
 
The i Touring Value gives the look of an 's Touring' for about $2000 less. The main difference was that the 'i' has the 2.0L engine vs. the 2.3L in the 's'.
 
There are still a lot of 2009 i Touring Value models available. Using the 'Search Inventory' link on the MazdaUSA.com website, I found 133 i Touring Values with Automatic and 16 with Manual (within 250 miles of my Atlanta area zip code). The Edmunds TMV price for the i Touring Value Automatic is only $15,230 ($18,665 MSRP, $17,529 Invoice Price) which reflects a $2000 rebate. The TMV is only $14,400 on the i Touring Value Manual....it doesn't get any better than that!!!
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [igozoomzoom] by roadburner
Jun 02, 2009 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jun 01, 2009 8:46 pm)

To be honest, a warning light is probably more effective than a coolant temperature gauge. Most drivers don't keep a constant eye on the temp gauge, but a warning light will be noticed immediately. Just think about how many miles you could travel with the needle pegged on 'H' (Hot) before you noticed...
 
So, why not pair a warning light with an ACCURATE temperature gauge? I hate, hate, HATE those "buffered" gauges.
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [igozoomzoom] by sonnyrocker
Jun 02, 2009 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jun 01, 2009 8:46 pm)

I really don't like the modern look. I like the retro gauges. They look great on the 2009.
 
If you can find a 2009, for the price, it is a much better car than 2010. First, you get all the goodies for much, much less. 2nd, it just looks so much better. The clear LED tailight looks awesome. Both front and back of 09 looks better than 2010. I do like the sides of the 2010 better. But they charge too much for 2010 compare to 2009 models.
I paid $16K for my 2009, and that includes all tainted windows and rear spoiler is included as well.
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [roadburner] by igozoomzoom
Jun 02, 2009 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jun 02, 2009 7:12 am)

Ideally, it would be both a gauge showing actual (correct) coolant temp and a warning light when it hits a certain threshold (preferably before it's pegged on 'H').
 
That's how they do it for fuel level. There's a gauge showing amount of fuel and a warning light when it hits a certain low point...
 
I wonder how accurately the trip computer calculates Miles Remaining?
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [igozoomzoom] by sonnyrocker
Jun 02, 2009 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jun 02, 2009 7:36 pm)

I don't buy the argument that the guages aren't accurate.
They are very close to what its supposed to be, that's why they are there.
The temp guage is right in front of you next to your mph guage. There is no excuse for not paying attention unless you don't look at your guages at all. I drive manual so I look at the guages panel all the time.
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [igozoomzoom] by roadburner
Jun 02, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jun 02, 2009 7:36 pm)

I wonder how accurately the trip computer calculates Miles Remaining?
 
Based on my measurements, it's 4%-5% optimistic.
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [sonnyrocker] by roadburner
Jun 02, 2009 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: sonnyrocker (Jun 02, 2009 7:45 pm)

I don't buy the argument that the guages aren't accurate.
They are very close to what its supposed to be, that's why they are there.
The temp guage is right in front of you next to your mph guage. There is no excuse for not paying attention unless you don't look at your guages at all. I drive manual so I look at the guages panel all the time.

 
The temp gauge isn't accurate. It's designed to indicate half way between hot and cold unless the engine is really hot or really cold. Think about it, have you ever seen the needle move even a millimeter once the engine has reached operating temperature? In contrast, the coolant temperature gauge needles in my 1975 BMW 2002 and 1999 Wrangler move around quite a bit.
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [roadburner] by autonomous
Jun 03, 2009 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Jun 02, 2009 9:20 pm)

The temp gauge isn't accurate. It's designed to indicate half way between hot and cold unless the engine is really hot or really cold.
 
I suppose what this discussion shows is that the degree of accuracy is based on a driver's perception. For many drivers, a simple indication that the engine is within the acceptable range or not, is likely enough. And, if one uses common sense one can avoid problems. Now, on a hot day with a loaded car moving slowly up a hill, most drivers would like know that the guage is working in case there is a problem. Reminds me of one hot summer's day in New York City when my co-driver learned the lesson the hard way; we ended up stopping the car a few times to give it a chance to cool down.
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Re: not impressed with the '10 [autonomous] by roadburner
Jun 03, 2009 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Jun 03, 2009 9:24 am)

For many drivers, a simple indication that the engine is within the acceptable range or not, is likely enough. And, if one uses common sense one can avoid problems.
 
I guess it's OK for a commuter car or grocery getter, but when I'm on the track I want to know exactly what the coolant temperature is doing. The last thing I need is for the gauge to suddenly indicate full hot just as the coolant starts to boil over- all while I'm trying to slow down from 130 mph to 80 mph for Turn One at Putnam Park.

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