Sign In Join 



2010 Mazda3

653 messages,  Last post on Nov 12, 2009 at 2:07 PM

You are in the Mazda3 Forum. Your Host is pf_flyer

What is this discussion about? Mazda MAZDA3, Future Vehicle


Messages Page 46 of 67
1
...
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
...
67
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#442 of 653
Re: Rim and Tire Package [jeffyscott] by shipo
Apr 16, 2009 (8:09 pm)
Reply

Replying to: jeffyscott (Apr 16, 2009 6:15 pm)

There was a study done a few years back that looked at handling and wheel size, and what they found was that, in general, the "sweet spot" for handling was with wheels in the 16" to 17" size range. Below that and the side wall typically gets too tall for crisp responsiveness, and above that the rotational mass of the wheel has been moved far enough out from its axis and tends to resist steering inputs as a child's gyroscope resists his or her movements.
 
IIRC, the study also indicated that larger wheel sizes also negatively impact braking and to a lesser degree, acceleration.
 
I'll poke around and see if I can come up with it or a suitable alternative (there have been several such studies; I've only read the one).
 
Best regards,
Shipo
#443 of 653
Re: Rim and Tire Package [vanquish421] by igozoomzoom
Apr 16, 2009 (8:24 pm)
Reply

Replying to: vanquish421 (Apr 16, 2009 12:40 pm)

Are you getting a manual or automatic transmission? The 2.0L/5MT should be a decent performer, 0-60 in the high 8-sec range and 33mpg highway. The 2.5L/6MT doesn't improve much on the 2.3L/5MT's 0-60 (mid/high 7-sec range), but most reviewers say that it feels faster around town (benefit fo the additional 18lb-ft of torque at 500rpm lower). The performance gap will be greater between the 2.0L and 2.5L with the 5AT. Even if the 0-60 times are only 1-second or so apart (as they are on the '09 automatic models), the 2.5L's addtional torque will perform better with the AT. '
 
Personally, I like the look of the 's' grille and fog lamps (and leather wrapped steering wheel is a must), but those are obviously a matter of opinion. The 17" wheels on the s are also high on my list. The '09 i Touring Value had 17" standard, too bad they didn't carry over to the new i Touring.
 
I'm pleasantly surprised that Mazda is offering the Bose stereo (Moonroof/Bose/6-CD Pkg) on the i Touring and s Sport models, not just the s Grand Touring. The i Touring with Moonroof/Bose/6-CD and the base s Sport are actually priced within $150 of each other. I'd have a hard time choosing between those two! I'd love to see the Bose stereo as a stand-alone option, but I'll take what I can get! I'm also glad to see the navigation option available on all s models, not just the Grand Touring....and it's not ridiculously over-priced anymore!
 
The 'i' vs. 's' debate isn't relevant to me personally, though. The 5-door is 's' only and, after having my '06 5-door for over three years, I don't think I can ever go back to a sedan (trunk) again!
#444 of 653
Re: Rim and Tire Package [shipo] by igozoomzoom
Apr 16, 2009 (8:39 pm)
Reply

Replying to: shipo (Apr 16, 2009 1:05 pm)

The Speed3 has 18" with 215/45 tires compared to the 17" with 205/50 tires on the '09 s. Why would the Speed3 have 18" wheels if they reduced handling performance? Just an observation, I'm no expert.
 
Personally, I think the 17" wheels are a "must" on the MZ3. The 17" wheels are actually how I ended up buying a 5-door when I got my '06. I was shopping for an s 4-door 'Touring' (the s Sport had 16") but I couldn't find one in my color choice (Titanium Gray) with manual transmission and no options. Since all 5-doors have the 17" wheels, I had a much easier time finding the color/tranny combo with no options. And now I'm a hardcore fan of the 5-door bodystyle!
#445 of 653
Re: Rim and Tire Package [igozoomzoom] by shipo
Apr 17, 2009 (2:03 am)
Reply

Replying to: igozoomzoom (Apr 16, 2009 8:39 pm)

There are other considerations regarding wheel size, not the least of which is the size of the brakes. I've never looked at a MazdaSpeed3, however, it sounds exactly like the kind of car for which one would want large brakes, possibly large enough to require 18" wheels to clear the calipers.
 
Bbest regards,
Shipo
#446 of 653
Re: Rim and Tire Package [shipo] by sonnyrocker
Apr 17, 2009 (4:59 am)
Reply

Replying to: shipo (Apr 17, 2009 2:03 am)

I personally think the MazdaSpeed3 is a completely different car than Mazda3, in terms of needs, price and performances.
If you want a MazdaSpeed, you are not having the same requirements as you would when shopping for a Mazda3.
#447 of 653
Re: 2009 Mazda 3 looks better [mazdazed] by sonnyrocker
Apr 17, 2009 (5:08 am)
Reply

Replying to: mazdazed (Apr 16, 2009 6:40 pm)

I don't like how stuffs are placed in the center console either. It just doesn't look anywhere as sharp as the 1st generation.
and there are enough improvements in the 08 and 09 models and more stuff added to the Touring Value Edition that, its a better car AND at better price.
Everyone has their own preferences, that's why there are so many makes and models out there. But if anyone is in the budget of around $15 - $18K, small sedan, the 09 is a no brainer. I looked at 09 and 10 side by side for comparison many times and I still like 09 better.
BTW, one thing I absolutely LOVE about the Mazda 3 is its feel when compare to BMW 3 series. My parents have a BMW 3, I used to drive it a lot and the Mazda 3 feels and handle very much like a BMW, for about $10-$15K less! and BMW 3 is even a smaller car than the Mazda 3. I amd 6"1 and I bumped my head every time I got in that car, not so with the Mazda 3.
#448 of 653
Re: 2009 Mazda 3 looks better [sonnyrocker] by rockymtnhi
Apr 17, 2009 (8:09 am)
Reply

Replying to: sonnyrocker (Apr 17, 2009 5:08 am)

I've been looking for an 09 Mazda HB GT and there are no such animals to be had any where.I like the 09 better than the 2010.
           Also,I don't know why you are forced to buy an S model for a HB.I priced out a VW GTI and it came to$ 25300. 6spd. sunroof and heated seats.Also, the milage was a little better than the Mazda,go figure.
                 Do you or anybody on here know when or why in 2008 Mazda came out with the I New Value?
                      Also, what does DSG (dual clutch mean?) and is a diesel engine in a small car worth it? I can't see spending 23k for a Mazda speed and getting 20 mpg.
                  Thanks
#449 of 653
Re: Rim and Tire Package [igozoomzoom] by rockymtnhi
Apr 17, 2009 (8:16 am)
Reply

Replying to: igozoomzoom (Apr 15, 2009 7:53 pm)

Ya but can you have 16" wheels on the sport,or does it screw up the brakes?
#450 of 653
Re: 2009 Mazda 3 looks better [rockymtnhi] by sonnyrocker
Apr 17, 2009 (10:34 am)
Reply

Replying to: rockymtnhi (Apr 17, 2009 8:09 am)

I thought the i Value Edition was not added until 2009, which gives you 17" alloy wheels, fog lights, leather covered shift and steering wheel. Its just a way to boost sales for the 2009 models. The model is aging and 2010 is on its heel.
DSG is just a hybrid of manual shift and automatic, but without the clutch. You can do automatic on DSG, or you can also "fake" it and do semi-manual shift. To me, who only drive manual shift, the DSG is useless. You are either a manual guy, or auto.
#451 of 653
Re: Rim and Tire Package [shipo] by roadburner
Apr 17, 2009 (12:37 pm)
Reply

Replying to: shipo (Apr 16, 2009 1:05 pm)

In fact, many of the folks that I know that race on weekends drop their wheel sizes to 16" and even 15" (if they can find a set that will clear the brakes). Why? Better lap times.
 
I talked with BMW and Honda racer TC Kline and he told me that he ran 205/55-16s(instead of the stock 225/55-16s) on his 318ti racers for that exact reason. He noted that the 205s had more than ample grip and that the car also felt better on the track. I followed his advice the last time I replaced the tires on my Club Sport and I agree 100%.

Messages Page 46 of 67
1
...
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
...
67
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement