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What's driving us? [tgassett] by autonomous
Mar 17, 2009 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: tgassett (Mar 16, 2009 3:26 pm)

That combo just really doesn't exist ... in this price range.
Hmmm... As we all know car manufacturers choose different vehicles for different markets. In Canada Mazda has introduced the Mazda3 GX 2.0L engine as a fuel efficient cheaper alternative to the 2.3L and 2.5L versions. In the UK and elsewhere, there are the Mazda2 and the Mazda3 diesel; both of which are more fuel efficient while being affordable and zoom-zoom capable. Meanwhile, competitors like Honda are providing options like the Civic hybrid as cheaper alternatives to the Prius for our marketplace.
 
My sense is that not enough of dealers are hearing that fuel efficiency is a key driver in our decision making. Consider the last time you've seen an ad for a car praising its lightness and consequently its fuel efficiency.
 
Finally, a little disclosure: my 2002 Mazda Protege5 automatic is a treat to drive and averages 25 mpg overall. The P5 became the Mazda3 S in 2004. In the latest (April 2009) Consumer Reports, the Mazda3 S Grand Touring Hatchback was rated at 25 mpg; CR notes "Highs: Handling, powertrain, braking, reliability, standard ESC; Lows: Road noise, instrument contrast, unimpressive fuel economy".
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Re: Does "everyone" include you? [autonomous] by dc_dave
Mar 17, 2009 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 16, 2009 1:36 pm)

Q: Why do you think "everyone keeps complaining about the gas mileage"?
A: Because we all fear that the days of cheap gas are numbered. Once OPEC returns to $4 gas, we'll all be singing the praises of fuel efficiency again.

 
Do you know what the 2010 Chevy Camaro V6 and the 2010 Mazda3 2.5 have in common? They have the same HWY EPA fuel economy numbers, both get 29 MPG. Of course, the Camaro also has 304 HP.
 
Dave in VA
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Re: What's driving us? [autonomous] by joem5
Mar 18, 2009 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 17, 2009 1:58 pm)

What's a Canadian Mazda GX compared to the cars Mazda offers here? Is it a S or 3 model?
             When I bought my Type S it didn't have heated seats ,but the Canadian model did.
 TY
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Re: Does "everyone" include you? [dc_dave] by jeffyscott
Mar 18, 2009 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: dc_dave (Mar 17, 2009 2:13 pm)

With a manual, that camaro is rated at 25 mpg hwy. I wonder how they got it up to 29, with the automatic?
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Re: Does "everyone" include you? [dc_dave] by joem5
Mar 18, 2009 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: dc_dave (Mar 17, 2009 2:13 pm)

Dave, maybe if the Camaro is a six speed and your'e driving it like "Granny Grunt" 45 mpg you'll get 29 mpg.
           The Camaro is a muslcle car and a fun ride. I get on I 70 with my 200 HP Type S and it wants to go,but not 45 miles an hour,rather 75miles an hour. No way do I get 29 mpg 75, I do at 60 though.Out west some states are'nt posted. I drove from Arizona to Vail . When I hit the Gun Barell 80 miles of road kill and desert I was averaging 85 to 100.
                 No way ,if you live in Wyoming,New Mexico, or CO and CA arwe you going to drive like Granny . You'll get run over. NO 304 HP car is bought with gas milage in mind.
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Zoomier [joem5] by autonomous
Mar 18, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: joem5 (Mar 18, 2009 6:15 am)

What's a Canadian Mazda GX compared to the cars Mazda offers here? Is it a S or 3 model?
 
The GX is the 2.0L Mazda3 with 148 hp and 135 lb.ft. of torque. It's available as a sedan (called Mazda 3 GX) or a hatchback (called the Mazda3 Sport GX). The GX model is over a thousand dollars cheaper than the pricier GS and GT versions of the Mazda3. For more information, Google Mazda Canada.
 
By the way, my 2002 Mazda Protege5 automatic is also a 2.0L but it outputs only 130 hp and 135 lb. ft. of torque. Its curb weight is 2749 lb; compare that to the 3077 lb. Mazda3 S GT automatic which is approx. 330 lbs heavier!
 
I'd argue that bigger is not better in this case. Imagine if the 2010 Mazda3 was lighter than its predecessor? Wouldn't that make it more agile, more fuel efficient, more zoom zoomier?
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Re: Zoomier [autonomous] by joem5
Mar 18, 2009 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: autonomous (Mar 18, 2009 12:16 pm)

Thanks, if i known that I would of looked into a Canadian purchase. I live in Maine in the summer and close to the boarder.
               I agree if the 2010 Mazda 3 were lighter you would get alot zoom with gusto.Why can't they gear a 6 spd mazda 3 HB with the 2.0 and have a cold weather package and sunroof as an option?. No they want you to go to a S model.
  I have had 2 RX 7"s a GX and and GXL and a Mazda 323 HB(I wish they made it now) I always liked the protege ES too.This Maxzda 08.5 New value I can't get my golf clubs in the trunk, let alone my mother in law.
   I'm going to wait as much as I fear Volkswan Das Auto. You get what is optionable On a Mazda GT HB standard for $19600.00 now. I went to VW dealer yesterday. Also they have a 7 speed DGB transmission coming.,That Rabbit had heated seats and a sunroof standard. .
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Re: Does "everyone" include you? [joem5] by dc_dave
Mar 18, 2009 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: joem5 (Mar 18, 2009 7:31 am)

Dave, maybe if the Camaro is a six speed and your'e driving it like "Granny Grunt" 45 mpg you'll get 29 mpg.
           The Camaro is a muslcle car and a fun ride. I get on I 70 with my 200 HP Type S and it wants to go,but not 45 miles an hour,rather 75miles an hour. No way do I get 29 mpg 75, I do at 60 though.Out west some states are'nt posted. I drove from Arizona to Vail . When I hit the Gun Barell 80 miles of road kill and desert I was averaging 85 to 100.
                 No way ,if you live in Wyoming,New Mexico, or CO and CA arwe you going to drive like Granny . You'll get run over. NO 304 HP car is bought with gas milage in mind.
 
I hear you - I'm sure those EPA numbers are probably on a downhill, coasting at 45 MPH, still EPA fuel economy numbers are all about playing the game and GM really did a good job to get a 29 Hwy MPG EPA rating.
 
I know that the 3 and Camaro are not direct competitors but you would be surprised who many people shop for cars simply based on their price point. Since there is a bit of overlap with their prices - some will cross shop the two.
 
Dave in VA
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'08,'09,'10 M3 Inventory & Pricing in San Diego by zar1
Mar 19, 2009 (3:55 pm)
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Apparently enough '08 & '09 inventory has been moving out for Mazda to introduce special financing on the 2010's, 2.9% 36/mos. and 4.9% 60/mos. Not great, but not bad either given it's just been introduced. Local internet pricing has also come down to Invoice +$200.
Inventory in the SD area as of yesterday: '08-3, '09-153, '10-118. The 4 dr. has about the same number of '09's as '10's, 98 vs. 95. For the 5 drs. it's 55 vs. 23. The 5 drs. seem to have arrived more recently. I hope there will be more incentives in April. We'll see. . .
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Re: '08,'09,'10 M3 Inventory & Pricing in San Diego [zar1] by joem5
Mar 20, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: zar1 (Mar 19, 2009 3:55 pm)

Zar, go to Car and Driver site and build a Rabbit 4 door 2.5L 6 speed tip tronc 170 HP. In other words compare it to the Mazda S HB 4 dr. 2010 $ 3300.00 less and the 2010 is coming is the best selling car in its class in Europe.Also the price I gave you has more options than Mazda.
                I never liked V Dubs, but, I think they will make Mazda come down alot.
        Also, I'm trying one and most likely switch to VW when 2010 gets here.
 Hey try a build on the 2door both rockets. :

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