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Mazda MAZDA3, Future Vehicle
#324 of 832 It's been a long time ... [jeffyscott]
Mar 11, 2009 (3:12 pm)
I was under the impression that, with regard to transmission choices, we were discussing only those that are available in the 2010 Mazda3
Sorry, it was not I but the original poster who was comparing different engines, transmissions and model years. And that makes a lot of sense. Why wouldn't one compare the 2009 to the 2010? I've been comparing the models since 2002 (when I bought my Protege5, precursor to the Mazda3) and frankly I have not seen any significant improvement in terms of fuel economy. Toyota and Honda have far better records in this domain. How long will it take Mazda to produce a hybrid Mazda3?
#325 of 832 Re: It's been a long time ... [autonomous]
Mar 12, 2009 (4:52 am)
We compared the 2009 to the 2010. The difference was enough to eliminate the 09. The wife said it was like comparing coach to first class. The interior was much nicer. The drive was quiet in the 10. The suspension was nicer in the 10. The price difference was about 2.8k (so far). We are holding out for a bit less price difference. Also, my son has a 2008 and it rolled 40 feet down our driveway into a neighbor's tree (dummy isn't sure how that happened?). The damage was $4700, the car crumbled like an accordian. The car couldn't have gotten to more than 5-10 mph. The 2010 is supposed to be much stiffer. Perhaps that will help?
#326 of 832 Re: It's been a long time ... [familydadx4]
Mar 12, 2009 (6:02 am)
Cars are supposed to crumple "like an accordian". They absorb the crash energy so that the occupants do not have to. The increased stiffness is not, I think, related to crumpling of body parts, instead it is related to the ride and handling.
#327 of 832 Waiting game ... [familydadx4]
Mar 13, 2009 (12:25 pm)
We are holding out for a bit less price difference.
Good idea. About a year and a half ago Mazda introduced the 2008, followed 6 months later by the 2008.5 and then again about 6 months later by the 2009 and now about 6 months later we see the 2010 model. Each time there is a new iteration, the previous model has to be moved off the lot quickly, which translates into more deal making. Good luck.
#328 of 832 Finally got it.
Mar 14, 2009 (6:55 pm)
Well, I finally made a commitment on Thursday and brought home my 2010 M3 S Sport automatic today in Crystal White Pearl Mica. I absolutely love the car. I was the first one to buy from my local dealership. If mazda can't sell this car they need to close up shop. I drove an 09 in December trying to decide if I wanted to wait or not. I like the 09 but like a previous post said it is like comparing coach to first class. Boy am I ever glad I waited. It is everything that I was looking for. I have been a Honda guy for years but Honda doesn't really make anything to compare with this car unless you want to talk Civic Si. And it doesn't come in automatic and has very little torque. Different strokes for different folks. You certainly cannot compare this car to the regular Civic or really anything else in the compact class for that matter. If your a doubter, go drive one. I bet you will be impressed.
Everyone keeps complaining about the gas mileage and says Mazda should make a hybrid. Are you crazy? That is not what this car is about. If you like the car but want better mileage get the i version as it is comparable to the Civic in mileage. The S version mpg is exactly the same as the Civic Si. How can you complain? If you want a hybrid go buy one.
#329 of 832 Re: Finally got it. [tgassett]
Mar 15, 2009 (7:44 pm)
The pearl white is beautiful!!! I am so glad you got what you wanted.
But, I am wondering why they chose to make the navigation screen so small?
It is almost a joke to even have it in the car. Its a little, tiny screen..lol.
#330 of 832 Re: Finally got it. [bvdj84]
Mar 15, 2009 (9:03 pm)
I believe the reason for the small Nav screen is to make it more accessible to everyone. If you look around, most OME Navs are $1500-$2000, while portable units (of similar size to the Mazda3's) are a fraction of those. I think this nav may start a trend to more affordable, smaller units designed to compete with portable units, with all the convenience of a built in unit.
#331 of 832 Re: Finally got it. [marsdog]
Mar 16, 2009 (5:16 am)
I think what Suzuki did with the SX4 makes the most sense, just put an actual portable unit in, but with a built holder for it. I'd likely not pay for a navigation system, in any case, but I'd at least consider it if it were ~$500 and could be taken out and used on non-driving trips. $1500-2000 for a unit that is permanently installed will never be something of interest to me.
#332 of 832 Re: Finally got it. [jeffyscott]
Mar 16, 2009 (6:18 am)
I know what you're saying but I've been close to buying a portable unit a couple times, but one of the reasons I hold back is it seems like a hassle to remove and hide the unit each time I stop. Personally, I love this built in unit and the fact that it doubles as all my driving info when I don't need the nav... something a portable cannot do. I'd never pay the huge price tag as you mentioned, but since I planned on buying all the gadgets anyway, the cost for the package makes sense for me at least.
#333 of 832 Re: Finally got it. [marsdog]
Mar 16, 2009 (6:32 am)
You make a good point. For the money, you get a very nice car. I really wouldn't need a navi unit, I use my iphone. Though, I am try to find a suction cup for it.
Compared to the Acura TSX, the screen in the mazda is very small. I guess the location of the screen works okay, because you could be driving and glancing at the screen to find a location.