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Brake lights!
by madauraowner
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Sep 29, 2008 (4:03 pm)
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I have a 2007 Aura and I am having so many problems. Now that I am reading blogs I noticed that the small things I did not report others I have had too. I have had the service ESC light to come on and they could not figure out how to fix that. The car would not start and they said it was the battery so I replaced that. But now I am thinking that it really was not the battery because Auto Zone said the battery was good. My biggest issue is my brake lights are on while driving and off when I pressed the brakes. I have two small children and this is very dangerous. My car was in the shop for 8 days only to get it back and have the same problem! I have put the car in the shop a total of 4 times for the same thing. I am getting ready to call Saturn help desk to report this and file a application for Texas Lemon Law.
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In the Shop again
by dons05malibu
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Sep 29, 2008 (8:37 pm)
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Just dropped off my Aura at Saturn today (Monday). Hopefully they can repair the problem with the ESC and the brake lights. I told them that I read on the Saturnfans.com forum that the ESC problem is connected to speed sensors on the wheels. At least this time the ESC problem isn't intermittent-it displays continuously. I'm thinking that when they adjusted the brake pedal sensor last week they adjusted it wrong and that's why the lights stay on all the time. The first time I had a brake light problem the brake lights went off momentarily when I tapped the pedal. This time I'll check the brake lights before I drive away from Saturn. When I get more info I'll let you know.
Don
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Re: In the Shop again [dons05malibu]
by madauraowner
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Sep 30, 2008 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: dons05malibu (Sep 29, 2008 8:37 pm)
I too dropped off my car this morning. And so far they can not tell what is wrong with it! He told me he would try it again in the morning. When I tap my brakes they go off but come right back on. This is my 5th visit for the same issue since 8/15/08, so hopefully the can figure out the problem. I had a sensor replaced last week so I am not sure what the issue is now? Do you ever get a fluttering under your brakes when you put your vehicle in gear?
Madauraowner
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Re: In the Shop again [madauraowner]
by dons05malibu
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Sep 30, 2008 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: madauraowner (Sep 30, 2008 3:40 pm)
Saturn is keeping my car in the shop another day and the service writer couldn't provide me with any updates. I'll just have to wait and see and try out another rental car at Saturn's expense. I'm also hoping that the Onstar part is delivered so they can fix that now and I don't have to go back again. I haven't had any pedal flutters as you describe but I'll let you know if I do.
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Re: In the Shop again [dons05malibu]
by madauraowner
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Oct 01, 2008 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: dons05malibu (Sep 30, 2008 4:36 pm)
Hi, is your car still under warranty?
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Re: In the Shop again [madauraowner]
by dons05malibu
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Oct 01, 2008 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: madauraowner (Oct 01, 2008 11:01 am)
Yes-still covered under the 3yr/36,000 mile warranty. I only purchased the car new in August 2007 (original owner),
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Re: In the Shop again [dons05malibu]
by madauraowner
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Oct 01, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: dons05malibu (Oct 01, 2008 11:39 am)
I bought my vehicle in May 07 as a demo with 8000 miles on it. I am over the mileage because of how much I drive daily! So the lemon law will not work for me. However, I did contact the Saturn National Assistance Desk and filed a case. The district specialist called me today and advised that they can not duplicate the problem, so they will keep the vehicle until they can. Once that is done the will call the engineers in to try to fix the problem. So lets see where we go from here. What the status on your car?
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Re: In the Shop again [madauraowner]
by dons05malibu
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Oct 01, 2008 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: madauraowner (Oct 01, 2008 3:32 pm)
Will pick up car in the morning. Saturn said they fixed the Onstar problem and made adjustments to the brake pedal sensor to correct the brake lights and also corrected the ESC problem. They mentioned a technical service bulletin and I will find out more specific info in AM and let you know.
Don
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Re: In the Shop again [dons05malibu]
by dons05malibu
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Oct 02, 2008 (6:16 am)
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Replying to: dons05malibu (Oct 01, 2008 4:44 pm)
Just picked up car-brake lights functioning normally and ESC light is off. Saturn replaced the VCIM module in Onstar and it works again except I now have a new phone number and phone number presets are gone. It appears that the "fix" was recalibrating the brake sensor. Saturn gave me a copy of a diagnostic procedure they used to troubleshoot problem. I don't know if this is a TSB but the document id is #1799534 and refers to DTC C0161 ABS/TCS Brake Switch Circuit. I'll keep you posted if the problem returns.
Good luck-Don
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Re: In the Shop again [dons05malibu]
by madauraowner
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Oct 08, 2008 (5:52 am)
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Replying to: dons05malibu (Oct 02, 2008 6:16 am)
So I go and pick up my vehicle yesterday and guess what??? The brake lights were still on! They advised they could not duplicate the problem when the vehicle was there. I find that hard to believe. But they also supposedly replaced the brake sensor and several other problems! So just keep a look out on your brake lights. I am waiting on a call back from the National Assistance Department. I am really getting fed up with this problem and not having my vehicle!
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