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2011 Chevrolet Volt First Look - The 2011 Chevrolet Volt is both more conventional than you might have been lead to believe and quite a bit more advanced than most potential buyers will know. (more)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 26, 2008 5:02 pm) "In outside dimensions if's about the size of a Corolla/Civic." Volt outside dimensions as per GM's press release 177.0" OAL 70.8" OAW 56.3" OAH From Edmunds herein on the Corolla outside dimensions 178.7" OAL 69.3" OAW 57.7" OAH Thus.............. The Volt is about an inch and a half shorter an inch and a half wider an inch and a half lower In other words "In outside dimensions if's about the size of a Corolla/Civic."
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Sep 26, 2008 6:59 pm) You forgot to mention the Civic. And, like I said, the Volt will be wider. Thanks for proving my point. Width means a lot where roominess is concerned. 
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 27, 2008 5:40 am) |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Sep 26, 2008 3:35 pm) Unless the vehicle you are currently driving gets over 50 mpg you'd save more on gas driving a Volt than the person who typically only drives 30 miles a day. There's no one vehicle that is perfect for everyone. I believe either the Accord or Camry are the best selling car in the country however I can think of a lot of reasons why they wouln't be suitable for certain people. Something like 14 million vehicles will be sold in the US this year. And this is a terrible year. You don't need to appeal to a high percentage of buyers to sell out the relatively small number of plug-ins that will be available the first few years. The hope is that as production of these vehicles ramps up the price will come down and a charging infrastructure will take shape. Seems reasonable to me. |
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"The real production Volt will come with [...] a door on the front fender for the recharging port" "The recharging port is supposed to be hidden under this trim piece. Unfortunately the standard plug port chosen by government regulators is too big to fit." (picture captions) HUH?? Where are they getting their info? http://www.gm-volt.com/e/volt_port.jpg |
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40 miles of electric drive range will allow me to get to work and back everyday without ever having the need to switch to the gasoline engine. So the question is.....why not making a full electric vehicle for city drivers without the need for a gasoline engine? The other question is, what problems will my gasoline engine experience over time by not being used very frequently?
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Replying to: pisulino (Oct 17, 2008 4:35 pm) |
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Replying to: pisulino (Oct 17, 2008 4:35 pm) Because, as they found with the EV1, then people are always worried about getting stranded somewhere when they run out of battery charge. That greatly limited the market for the EV1.
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Replying to: nedzel (Oct 20, 2008 9:20 am) I have an electric moped that I use and it gives me something like a 35 mile range, I charge it every second day and I have never been stranded and that is a cheap made in china moped. They could implement a small backup battery pack as a reserve for that matter. Something like.... a red light flashing and notifying you that the vehicle is low in primary batteries and it's switching to the reserve pack - let's say 10 miles. There are no more excuses for not having a 100% gasoline free vehicle for city drivers anymore. The electrics and hybrids offerings fall short from what can be done with today's technologies. Imagine the increase on the vehicle's range by removing the weight associated with all the components required to sustain the gasoline engine!! Not to mention space for more batteries...... |
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Replying to: pisulino (Oct 20, 2008 7:29 pm) Imagine the increase on the vehicle's range by removing the weight associated with all the components required to sustain the gasoline engine!! Not to mention space for more batteries...... Okay, I'll try to imagine this. I'd say the small ICE generator and components will weigh no more than 300 pounds. With regenerative braking extra weight does not have as big an effect on city mileage and it's effect on highway mileage has always been fairly small. I'd guess that if the Volt weighed 300 lbs less its electric range might increase by 5%. If you choose to add 300 lbs of battery in its place this reduced weight benefit is gone. This extra 300 lbs of battery would also cost more than the ICE it was replacing but you'd now have an EV with close to 100 mile range. So it will have the same or higher price tag as the Volt and still require most people to have a second vehicle. The Volt is an EV for city drivers, the ICE will never kick in. Your rational makes no sense. Basically you are stating that if you ever need to take a trip longer than an EV's range you want to be burning gas for the entire distance.
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