Last post on Feb 26, 2010 at 9:48 AM
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Subaru Forester, Diesel, Wagon
2009 Subaru Forester Diesel First Drive - First Impressions: As much as we like the idea of a diesel Subaru Forester, this one is too pokey for all but Subie die-hards. (more)
#6 of 15 Re: I Want One!!! [gmginsfo]
Nov 25, 2008 (4:51 pm)
Why would you want more HP? The Legacy Outback 2.0L Diesel will do 0-60 MPH in 8.5 seconds. It is rated at 47 MPG on the highway. Not shabby for a 4X4 wagon.
#7 of 15 Diesel surchage now over 50%
Dec 01, 2008 (1:32 pm)
Over here in Potomac, MD.
This kills even a 30-40% advantage in efficiency.
Why is diesel taxed so heavily? This is crazy. Gas is under $2 and around me diesel is over $3 now.
#8 of 15 who wants a forester diesel?
Feb 15, 2010 (11:38 am)
Ok, I'm tired of waiting and reading every scrap of information about the Forester Diesel and when it will be released in the United States! I really want one, so I'm taking matters into my own hands. I've created a survey to take a count of how may people want one and a little information about their Subaru experiences and buying intentions. I'll forward every single survey via email to a Subaru contact I've got. Hopefully, they'll see enough demand through this effort to move them ahead with the release, just in case.
Click below to take the survey. Afterward, you'll get an email with results links you can click on.
#9 of 15 No Subaru Diesel for US
Feb 23, 2010 (5:52 am)
The 2009 proposed changes to the EPA regulations for model years 2012 to 2016 are going into effect next month, and the CO2 and MPG regulations for 2016 force diesel out of the showroom. The 2016 MPG regulations are so high that diesel alone can't get there. Cars for MY 2016 are already in planning, and will be designed in 2011. Manufacturers have to switch to a whole new technological platform for these regulations. That platform will be hybrid gas-electric. And they have to begin designing hybrid into the platform now, not diesel.
For that reason, and the low demand for diesels in the US, the high cost of diesel fuel, and the popularity of their present gas models, Subaru has no incentive to bring their Boxer Diesel to the US. It is not worth supporting a new engine in this poor diesel market for so few years.
#10 of 15 Re: No Subaru Diesel for US [aatherton]
Feb 23, 2010 (6:33 am)
For that reason, and the low demand for diesels in the US, the high cost of diesel fuel, and the popularity of their present gas models, Subaru has no incentive to bring their Boxer Diesel to the US. It is not worth supporting a new engine in this poor diesel market for so few years
But the diesel block and cylinder heads might be useable for a small displacement gasoline direct injection model. That might speed the development of the next generation engine.
#11 of 15 Re: No Subaru Diesel for US [saedave]
Feb 23, 2010 (9:18 am)
"... the diesel block and cylinder heads might be useable for a small displacement gasoline direct injection model. That might speed the development of the next generation engine."
True, but a little diesel hybrid is not the diesel that the diesel fans want. It would drive like a hybrid, not a diesel.
#12 of 15 Re: No Subaru Diesel for US [aatherton]
Feb 23, 2010 (9:44 am)
That's too bad. Hybrids are a transitional technology and as such I do not expect I will have one in my garage. I would have seriously considered a diesel, though.
#13 of 15 Re: No Subaru Diesel for US [aatherton]
Feb 23, 2010 (1:47 pm)
A simple diesel with auto shut-off may do the trick.
Feb 26, 2010 (9:44 am)
I currently own an 07 Prius. I like the gas mileage it is capable of, but it is boring to drive. I have owned 2 Subarus in the past. I like the AWD system on Subaru, but I do not like the gas mileage Subarus gets. I like the Jetta TDI but do not trust VW's reliability. A diesel Forester or Legacy would be very nice, Subaru reliability and diesel's good fuel economy.
#15 of 15 Re: Diesel Subaru [avucarguy]
Feb 26, 2010 (9:48 am)
You may want to try out a Legacy 2.5i CVT.
EPA highway is 31mpg, and it does well in the real world, too. In Consumer Reports testing, it actually got better mileage than the Accord - 4 banger.