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Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series
75 messages, Last post on Jan 01, 2012 at 11:51 AM
You are in the Audi A6 Forum.What is this discussion about? Hyundai Genesis, Lexus GS 460, BMW 5 Series, Audi A6, Lexus GS 350, Car Comparisons, Coupe, Sedan
#67 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [tjc78] by alleycat10
Dec 26, 2011 (9:54 am)
Replying to: tjc78 (Sep 09, 2011 4:43 am)
I drove a 2012 Genesis 3.8 sedan twice in mid-December, the second time after over-inflated tires on the first gave the car a very jiggly ride. The second time, I took the car on a rough road with lots of pavement dips. The jiggle was gone on the second ride, but I was disappointed with the ride as it transmitted quite a bit of bounce, amounting to what I would call unstable. Within about 20 minutes of the second test drive, I drove a 2012 Toyota Camry SE base model on the same stretch of rough pavement. The Camry ride was much more controlled and nearly as quite as the Genesis. I ended up buying the Camry at about $12,000 less than the Genesis. I will take the Genesis 3.8 on another test drive in a few years, hoping by then that Hyundai further refines the suspension as it is otherwise a very impressive automobile. Another thing that Hyundai should do is to arrange the outside temperature indicator for continuous display. The display for outside temperature comes up only on demand for the 2012 model.
#68 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [alleycat10] by LASHAWN
Dec 27, 2011 (10:10 am)
Replying to: alleycat10 (Dec 26, 2011 9:54 am)
You compared the ride of the Genesis to that of a camry? You do know that these are totally different cars with very different driving dynamics. Would have been better off comparing Genesis to the Infinity M35 which would have had similar driving dynamics considering both are rear drive and not front drive like the camry, by the way is compared to the Sonata anyway. Talk about apples to oranges.
- 55396 (Dec 27, 2011 10:37 am)
- alleycat10 (Jan 01, 2012 9:22 am)
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#69 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [LASHAWN] by 55396
Dec 27, 2011 (10:37 am)
Replying to: LASHAWN (Dec 27, 2011 10:10 am)
Jiggly is jiggly. You like it or you don't, front drive or rear. In normal driving I doubt most would know front from rear. I have an 03 Avalon and replaced the struts with KYB GR2's and installed poly performance sway bar bushings. Much more like a rear drive BMW now. Love it and see no reason to trade. This characteristic of Hyundai is widely reported. Based upon my experience with the Avalon upgrade, there seems to be no reason to have to put up with that unless you do track time. I have driven them and would not buy one for that reason. I would like to drive one with 30k to see if it changes. My Avalon was a bit that way on small bumps initially but perfect now. In fact a friend who drives Town Car limo's drove it the other day and commented on how well it rode and how flat it cornered. You can have the best of both worlds, just pick your compromise carefully. It is all a compromise. Pick the one that suits you best.
- tjc78 (Dec 27, 2011 12:33 pm)
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#70 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [55396] by tjc78
Dec 27, 2011 (12:33 pm)
Replying to: 55396 (Dec 27, 2011 10:37 am)
GREAT post. There are cars out there that prove you can have some comfort while still handling well. IMHO the only thing on the Genesis that needed improvement (lots of it) is the ride/handling balance. Its a car that does so much right and one very important thing wrong (at least to my tastes). FWIW I had near 30k on mine and the ride never changed.
#72 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [LASHAWN] by alleycat10
Jan 01, 2012 (9:22 am)
Replying to: LASHAWN (Dec 27, 2011 10:10 am)
I wanted interior space and a quiet ride with a well-controlled suspension at a competitive price, the 2012 Genesis missing badly on suspension refinement for rough pavement where the 2012 Camry SE does not. Both are priced competively. Apples vs. oranges is not the issue here for me. It just so happens that winner ended up being one of the cheapest rides. I also drove the Toyota RAV4, Honda Accord, Honda CR-V, Nissan Altima, Buick Regal and Mazda 6. The Hyundai Sonata driver seating makes one feel cramped and restrained, so didn't even bother to drive it.
#73 of 75 Re: Lexus [allmet33] by 55396
Jan 01, 2012 (11:41 am)
Replying to: allmet33 (Aug 17, 2009 12:43 pm)
My Pontiac used the Audi 5000, I believe, as their benchmark. Musta just been using the dimensions. 
#74 of 75 Re: Lexus [tjc78] by 55396
Jan 01, 2012 (11:45 am)
Replying to: tjc78 (Aug 17, 2009 1:37 pm)
I saw a Genesis coupe with a body kit etc. installed that a dealer had at a car show. SHARP.
#75 of 75 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [dulnev] by 55396
Jan 01, 2012 (11:51 am)
Replying to: dulnev (Aug 22, 2009 7:35 pm)
It's not the driving experience that I want. It's everything else. I can make the driving experience what I want with a few changes and about 500 bucks.
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