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Hyundai Genesis, Lexus GS 460, BMW 5 Series, Audi A6, Lexus GS 350, Car Comparisons, Coupe, Sedan
#58 of 75 Re: If you like Avalon and considering ES 350, check out the 2010 Buick Lac [prema1]
Sep 12, 2009 (8:45 am)
"Rather than wasting money on suspension upgrades for an ES350"
Well, if $$$ were no concern.......... but I can do the suspension upgrade for 1/10 of that and still have a fine car. What does one really need? As opposed to what would I like to have. Guess I'm just too practical. That's why I will buy when they come off 3 year lease and the price is down. That initial depreciation is like flushing the money down the toilet. I have no debt and I want no debt. Personal choice. Don't like paying others for using their money either. Also like flushing it down a toilet. I pay cash because of what I have saved doing it like this. Takes discipline and not for everyone but it works great for me.
#59 of 75 Re: If you like Avalon and considering ES 350, check out the 2010 Buick Lac
Sep 12, 2009 (10:23 am)
I also have no debt, no leases, pay cash and get really good deals. I was simply making the point that suspension upgrades cost money upfront which are pure depreciation because they aren't worth much of a premium to used car buyers.
#61 of 75 2012 genesis impressive
Sep 08, 2011 (7:00 pm)
for those who had minor issues/turn off about Genesis suspension , now have little to say with the 2012 version.
Already own the Genesis coupe and ready soon to trade it in for a family sedan with some sport. (infinity M, BMW 528, Genesis)
Took the coupe in for service and test drove the 2012 Genesis 3.8 and color me impressed.
I was already impressed with the car when it was first born, but the 2012 drives even more refined and looks even better.
It is no longer a pre tender and is a real option when cross shopping vs bmws, infinitys, mercedes imo (other than for brand image, which hyundai is improving upon every day). Because the price for it is low, it can also be an option for buyers interested in semi luxurious cars like maxima, avalon too.
Pros: Refined to respectability, suspension is on par with the best in its class, handsome looks (last years model rear tail lights not aging well, front grill doesn't blend in well with rest of the car), best car you can buy for the money
cons: Interior could be more modern, 8 speed auto geared towards smooth and gas saving vs 6 speed zf which was better for "sport".
#62 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [rocketdan1]
Sep 08, 2011 (9:08 pm)
So what did they change about the suspension? I wouldn't buy one the way Hyundai's were. Too jiggly.
#63 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive 
Sep 09, 2011 (4:43 am)
From what I've read on other forums, they have softened it a little. I also read that they finally dumped the DUnlop SP 5000 tires (which have a terrible consumer ranking on Tire Rack) in favor of something different. I can't remember what brand.
If the ride is much improved over the 09-11 it would be a good thing for Hyundai. I dumped my 09 V6 after 2 years and 21K miles, I just couldn't stand the ride any longer. Jittery and unsettled to say the least.
#64 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive 
Sep 09, 2011 (5:07 am)
yeah they did. its not "jiggle" or "bouncy" like some have complained before
its now planted but absorb bumps before transmitted inside the cabin.
The genesis suspension was a little confused with the last model. Hyundai tried to be comfortable and sport , but didn't marry them in proper harmony.
The 2012 has got it right from my long test drive.
#65 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [tjc78]
Sep 12, 2011 (5:07 pm)
They have Michelin's on them now, forgot which brand.
#66 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [rocketdan1]
Nov 14, 2011 (3:18 pm)
I recently test drove a Hyundai Genesis 3.8 sedan. Very nice car but not really tuned for hadr driving. The biggest problem I has was when I pushed the car hard from a start there was a very noticable throttle lag/hesitation until the engine acceelerated. It was also as if the stumbled from a stop when pressed hard.
#67 of 75 Re: 2012 genesis impressive [tjc78]
Dec 26, 2011 (9:54 am)
I drove a 2012 Genesis 3.8 sedan twice in mid-December, the second time after over-inflated tires on the first gave the car a very jiggly ride. The second time, I took the car on a rough road with lots of pavement dips. The jiggle was gone on the second ride, but I was disappointed with the ride as it transmitted quite a bit of bounce, amounting to what I would call unstable. Within about 20 minutes of the second test drive, I drove a 2012 Toyota Camry SE base model on the same stretch of rough pavement. The Camry ride was much more controlled and nearly as quite as the Genesis. I ended up buying the Camry at about $12,000 less than the Genesis. I will take the Genesis 3.8 on another test drive in a few years, hoping by then that Hyundai further refines the suspension as it is otherwise a very impressive automobile. Another thing that Hyundai should do is to arrange the outside temperature indicator for continuous display. The display for outside temperature comes up only on demand for the 2012 model.