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Hyundai Genesis, Lexus GS 460, BMW 5 Series, Audi A6, Lexus GS 350, Car Comparisons, Coupe, Sedan
#46 of 75 Re: Hyundai Genesis Sedan serious problems [rjj718]
Aug 17, 2009 (8:04 am)
"Any of this sound familiar?"
Yes, that's why I asked. I wondered if they had gotten their act together. How could Mercedes have sunk this far? More importantly, why haven't corrected their quality problems after all these years? Between them and the American car companies, they have made it a walk in the park for the Asian manufacturers to become dominant. Shame on them. Now they're paying the price. Arrogance can do that.
Aug 17, 2009 (11:37 am)
After reading the above 2messages, I found 1more reason to trust lexus.
I was expecting the hyundai genesis to be a nice car, but what can I say now.
#48 of 75 Re: Lexus [bmlexus]
Aug 17, 2009 (11:43 am)
Hey...bmlexus...have you driven one personally or are you simply going by other people's opinions???
No...the Genesis isn't a BMW, nor is it a Lexus...however...for the money you spend and what you get for the money, it's not merely a nice car....it's a great car (for the money). Can't touch anything like it for the money!
The first mistake folks make (imho) is they are expecting it to be just like a BMW, Benz, Infiniti or Lexus. Early on, it was stated that the 5-Series and E-Class were the benchmark of the Genesis. That merely means that those were the cars that set the standard that Hyundai was shooting for when they created the Genesis. Considering this is Hyundai's first attempt...I think they did remarkably well. Take one for a spin and you'll see what I mean.
#49 of 75 Re: Lexus [bmlexus]
Aug 17, 2009 (12:01 pm)
"I was expecting the hyundai genesis to be a nice car, but what can I say now. "
It might be prudent to see if there is a pattern here and if so, how they stand behind it. Probably not wise to condemn on one report. Probably not my cup of tea, but I'm impressed how they came of the cellar on their first attempts, zoomed right past American companies and rose to the top of the quality ratings. I give credit where credit is due.
#50 of 75 Re: Lexus [bmlexus]
Aug 17, 2009 (12:37 pm)
I found 1more reason to trust lexus.
If you read on here and on the "genesisowners.com" website you will find that the vast majority of Genesis owners have had little or no problems with their Genesis. Mine has been problem free except for an alignment issue (not the car's fault) and one loose clip on a dashboard trim piece.
The Genesis is not a perfect car, but, like others have mentioned a lot of car for the money. I could think of a few improvements... but that could be said of ANY car.
#51 of 75 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [mobiusf1]
Aug 17, 2009 (1:02 pm)
My impression is the same. I wrote the 528 off my list. Totally different experience. Thrashy, far less performance. Only the 535 for me.
Still, my 03 Avalon gets up to 31 MPG runnung 80 with a load. 27-29 is more typical if windy etc. though. I would take a hit there with the 5 Series. Guess the fun factor would have to make up for it, but after upgrading the suspension, I don't feel I'm missing much there either (See 04 and earlier AV & suspension mods).
I just tried out a Cad STS AWD V8. Rather drive the AV, but the STS felt much heavier. Guess the ES 350 is still top of the list as I can always do the same suspension upgrade on that with KYB GR2 struts and Energy sway bar bushings.
Aug 20, 2009 (9:19 am)
Did not drive, but checked out an A4 and an A6 yesterday and studied the brochures and web info on both. The A4 appears better equipped than the A6 and almost as big inside. Both smaller than the Genesis and smaller than my Azera.
Biggest problem is that neither is up to the Asian standards on features and electronics. Even after you load up with most expensive packages and options.
Sales manager recommended I get the $770, 3 year maintenance package if I purchase. In otherwords, maintenance will be expensive per the manual.
#53 of 75 Re: Hyundai Genesis Sedan serious problems [rjj718]
Aug 20, 2009 (1:57 pm)
I need a confirmation. Such incident is so rare. If it did happen, I need more than 1 report to confirm it.
This single post isn't sufficient enough. I wouldn't dismiss it but such thing happens with other cars, including Lexus. I think, this anecdotal post is a rare and does not represent the total view.
#54 of 75 Re: Hyundai Genesis Sedan serious problems [rk2469]
Aug 20, 2009 (6:17 pm)
To follow up: Problem not resolved. I contacted the dealership from which I purchased the vehicle. Two calls went unreturned (Mon the 17th). On Tuesday the 18th the same thing happened with the car -- system failures resulting in total inoperability. I must say that once I got the car to the dealership, I've had fantastic communication from my service rep. He's been cooperative, informative and honest. Fortunately they're not minimizing the seriousness of the problem with this particular vehicle -- if they did they would have one angry customer. Their Genesis techs are baffled but working hard to fix it. All day Tuesday when the car was with them it ran fine, then a manager went to drive it in the evening and incident #3 happened. I truly do not believe that this is characteristic of the Genesis, and yes it could happen with any vehicle. I think it's rare and a fluke, and I also feel confident that Hyundai will fix the car. I've done a good deal of research on the web and not found a similar experience.
#55 of 75 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series 
Aug 22, 2009 (6:35 pm)
If you like Avalon and considering ES 350, check out the 2010 Buick Lacross. Never thought I would suggest a Buick to anyone, but you have to see this car to believe it. It is beautiful inside and (mostly) out, and is choke full of technology and features not available on BMW, Audi or Lexus that cost $20K more.
I wouldn't want to buy it because the driving experience is supposed to be similar to the Lexus ES, but that seems to be what you want.