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Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series

60 messages,  Last post on Sep 12, 2009 at 9:23 AM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Genesis, Lexus GS 460, BMW 5 Series, Audi A6, Lexus GS 350, Car Comparisons, Coupe, Sedan


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Re: If you like Avalon and considering ES 350, check out the 2010 Buick Lac by prema1
Sep 12, 2009 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: 55396 (Aug 22, 2009 10:20 pm)

Rather than wasting money on suspension upgrades for an ES350, I would just spend $5000 more and get a GS350. GS350 has superb handling, a more powerful engine (I think it is because of direct injection), and drives as well as a BMW. No front wheel drive car will match that.
 
On the Genesis - I agree its a good car and don't believe reliability issues are widespread. But a Hyundai dealership just can't provide a premium service experience. I went in there, and just did not want to deal with a service guy who barely speaks English and has a gold tooth. Its just not confidence inspiring. Plus if you ever need a loaner you get stuck with some crappy 4 cylinder hyundai instead of getting a Lexus ES350, IS250 or RX350 loaner which is what Lexus offers. I think Hyundai was extremely naive in trying to start a luxury car business without separate dealerships.
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Re: If you like Avalon and considering ES 350, check out the 2010 Buick Lac [prema1] by 55396
Sep 12, 2009 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: prema1 (Sep 12, 2009 7:17 am)

"Rather than wasting money on suspension upgrades for an ES350"
 
Well, if $$$ were no concern.......... but I can do the suspension upgrade for 1/10 of that and still have a fine car. What does one really need? As opposed to what would I like to have. Guess I'm just too practical. That's why I will buy when they come off 3 year lease and the price is down. That initial depreciation is like flushing the money down the toilet. I have no debt and I want no debt. Personal choice. Don't like paying others for using their money either. Also like flushing it down a toilet. I pay cash because of what I have saved doing it like this. Takes discipline and not for everyone but it works great for me.
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Re: If you like Avalon and considering ES 350, check out the 2010 Buick Lac by prema1
Sep 12, 2009 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: 55396 (Sep 12, 2009 7:45 am)

I also have no debt, no leases, pay cash and get really good deals. I was simply making the point that suspension upgrades cost money upfront which are pure depreciation because they aren't worth much of a premium to used car buyers.

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