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Replying to: art234 (Apr 08, 2009 9:13 am)
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Replying to: mobiusf1 (Apr 09, 2009 2:57 pm) I can order a new BMW the way I want it and it would be in just about in time...or wait for the Audis to be updated with the HDD nav system, which is coming for 2010--but I heard they may arrive early. I'll keep everyone posted. |
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Replying to: choe13 (Sep 22, 2008 5:38 pm) Very disappointed with the bumpy ride ( bounces a lot ) and the dealer has no explanation for this. The car I test drove was not as bumpy. On the streets and highway around the dealership. I drive to work on highway 35 miles each way on concrete highway. makes it very bouncy for a 36000 car. I replaced my lexus with this and the same trip was much smoother. I also feel the rear wheel genesis 3.8 accleration is very less compared to the car I replaced. the car itself looks gorgeous in looks. I am still waiting for a resolution from hyundai. for now i am riding it with reduced air pressure although it doesn't help much in ride comfort. The tight ride (minus the bumpyness) can be compared with a BMW.
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Replying to: gerrygerry (Oct 09, 2008 5:59 pm) Funny, I just tried out an 09 V6 and thought it was nice but uninvolving, Maybe I drove too many BMW's. Then again, I was talking to the salesman. Better they should just shut up while you're driving. I thought my 86 Accord coupe was fun, but didn't handle. A flexy flier. It may have been in a wreck as the body was not solid. |
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Replying to: mmoreno1978 (Oct 09, 2008 6:23 pm) Mercedes has had horrendous quality problems and sounds like the battery drains down in just a few days. Infiniti M got rave reviews from Jin Healey |
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Replying to: adamjmank (May 05, 2009 3:36 pm) |
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Replying to: choe13 (Sep 22, 2008 5:38 pm) I was totally blown away by the Lexus. Superior build quality, superior handling (with the standard active suspension on the GS460), better steering experience, much more intuitive user interface (I love the touch screen), and much more engaging styling inside and out (matter of taste but comparing them back to back, the BMW design seemed outdated). I should comment more on the handling. I am a performance driver. I used to take my 330 to the track. What impressed me about BMW historically is that the suspension is good in almost every setting. Other cars are tuned either for comfort but don't corner well (Benz E500, Genesis) or for performance but give you a jarring ride on bumpy roads (Infiniti M45, Audi A6). BMW 550 has a great balance of comfortable but performance oriented ride. However the GS460 is much better. The cornering experience is much superior due to the active suspension which holds it flat in sports mode. You really feel like you can throw the car around and engage the curves. In comfort mode, the car deals with the bumpy city streets much better than the BMW without losing its basic sportiness. Coming from a BMW330Ci (one of BMWs best non-M cars) I was blown away by the Lexus driving experience compared to BMW. The other factor was the electronics. I found the BMW iDrive totally distracting. In my old car tuning the satellite radio was really a pain. I love the intuitiveness of the Lexus touch screen. It's no iPhone, but to draw an analogy, the Lexus feels like using an iPhone while the BMW feels like using a Windows Mobile phone. They deliver almost the same functionality, but the Lexus system is so much easier and more pleasant to use. The only downside with the Lexus is the factory tires are not as good as those on the 550 if the 550 comes with Pilotsport 2s. I just upgraded the tires on the Lexus to Michelin PilotSport 2s and that closed the gap. With these tires the Lexus is smooth, grippy (strikingly so in the rain) and has great road feel.
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Replying to: prema1 (Jun 23, 2009 2:32 pm) You do know that the ('08+) 550i Sport has Active Roll Stabilization (ARS)? It's the same concept as the Lexus system you're praising. You must not've been driving the 550i Sport or it was older than '08. |
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| I leased a 2009 Genesis Sedan (V 8 with techno package) a week ago yesterday. Today (with less than 500 miles on the vehicle) I was driving it down Alligator Alley in Fla, two hours from home, in the middle of an afternoon rainstorm. Suddenly, with no warning, things just went off -- lights, dashboard lights, windshield wipers, window controls, door lock controls, all air conditioning. It was raining so hard I couldn't see. If it had been dark, and without lights of any kind and no wipers, I would have been dead. The hazard lights wouldn't even work. It was a miracle that I made it (slowly and stressfully) to my exit, but the car totally died a mile from home and had to be pushed off the road. Has this happened to anyone? Does anybody have any idea what this could be? Perhaps I got a lemon. I sold a Mercedes to get into this car, and up to now I was very happy with it. | |
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Replying to: rjj718 (Aug 15, 2009 6:06 pm)
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