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#32 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [art234] by bmlexus Apr 06, 2009 (10:39 am)
Replying to: art234 (Apr 04, 2009 4:29 pm) If you're interested in the Jag, there is someone in the Jag XF forum who is about to take the new XF or the 535.   Only if you're interested, otherwise, good luck with the 535i.
#33 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [art234] by bruceomega Apr 07, 2009 (11:25 am)
Replying to: art234 (Apr 04, 2009 4:29 pm) FWIW,   I have an '08 535Xi.   On the road, I have gotten as high as 30 mpg at a somewhat steady 74 mph. I typically average about 25 mpg on a trip with no effort to be frugal with the gas pedal. Trip computer shows overall average is 19 mpg, local and highway combined.   I really like Logic 7. It's much better than the standard audio system in my wife's '06 X3.   What I like most is Lexicon's Logic 7 surround sound processsing. When engaged, it seems like you are listening in a larger environment than the physical confines of the car itself, and provides a more natural ambiance.   Thanks Bruce Replies to this message: art234 (Apr 08, 2009 9:13 am) mobiusf1 (Apr 09, 2009 2:57 pm) art234 (Apr 13, 2009 12:50 pm) 55396 (Aug 17, 2009 1:02 pm) and 1 more...
#34 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [bruceomega] by art234 Apr 08, 2009 (9:13 am)
Replying to: bruceomega (Apr 07, 2009 11:25 am) Thanks for the insight. The current thinking is going to be the BMW 5 series vs. the A6 from Audi, which I really liked. The BMW would, however, be a 528, which while not as fast as the 535, is adequate for my needs. My dealer just got a new one in with Logic7, but I have to add the Satellite and CD changer--the hard drive models won't be in for a while and will not likely have the incentives. Replies to this message: mobiusf1 (Apr 09, 2009 2:57 pm) art234 (Apr 13, 2009 12:50 pm) 55396 (Aug 17, 2009 1:02 pm) dulnev (Aug 22, 2009 6:35 pm)
#35 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [art234] by mobiusf1 Apr 09, 2009 (2:57 pm)
Replying to: art234 (Apr 08, 2009 9:13 am) hey sounds great. Question, have you driven both the 528i and 535i? Just saying, b/c to be honest, the 535 is far faster and gets very similar fuel economy. When your buying a car like this then the extra money shouldn't make that much of a difference because you should get the car you want. Don't compromise. I'm just saying this from my experience. But if your fine with the 528i than all the power to you. Replies to this message: art234 (Apr 13, 2009 12:50 pm) 55396 (Aug 17, 2009 1:02 pm) dulnev (Aug 22, 2009 6:35 pm)
#36 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [mobiusf1] by art234 Apr 13, 2009 (12:50 pm)
Replying to: mobiusf1 (Apr 09, 2009 2:57 pm) I have decided to wait it out a bit longer....I technically have 3 months left on the Infiniti M lease and in a worst case scenario my wife is willing to drive the M--leaving me with an RX400h which I love.   I can order a new BMW the way I want it and it would be in just about in time...or wait for the Audis to be updated with the HDD nav system, which is coming for 2010--but I heard they may arrive early.   I'll keep everyone posted.
#37 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [choe13] by adamjmank May 05, 2009 (3:36 pm)
Replying to: choe13 (Sep 22, 2008 5:38 pm) I am driving my genesis 3.8 for 2 weeks now 1400 miles on it. Very disappointed with the bumpy ride ( bounces a lot ) and the dealer has no explanation for this. The car I test drove was not as bumpy. On the streets and highway around the dealership. I drive to work on highway 35 miles each way on concrete highway. makes it very bouncy for a 36000 car.   I replaced my lexus with this and the same trip was much smoother. I also feel the rear wheel genesis 3.8 accleration is very less compared to the car I replaced.   the car itself looks gorgeous in looks. I am still waiting for a resolution from hyundai. for now i am riding it with reduced air pressure although it doesn't help much in ride comfort.   The tight ride (minus the bumpyness) can be compared with a BMW. Replies to this message: 55396 (Jun 08, 2009 1:06 pm)
#38 of 60 Re: test drive [gerrygerry] by 55396 Jun 08, 2009 (11:17 am)
Replying to: gerrygerry (Oct 09, 2008 5:59 pm) "The Accord is sportier and fun to drive!"   Funny, I just tried out an 09 V6 and thought it was nice but uninvolving, Maybe I drove too many BMW's. Then again, I was talking to the salesman. Better they should just shut up while you're driving. I thought my 86 Accord coupe was fun, but didn't handle. A flexy flier. It may have been in a wreck as the body was not solid.
#39 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [mmoreno1978] by 55396 Jun 08, 2009 (11:21 am)
Replying to: mmoreno1978 (Oct 09, 2008 6:23 pm) Mercedes E-Class and Infiniti M   Mercedes has had horrendous quality problems and sounds like the battery drains down in just a few days. Infiniti M got rave reviews from Jin Healey USA Today, but gets horrible gas mileage.
#40 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [adamjmank] by 55396 Jun 08, 2009 (1:06 pm)
Replying to: adamjmank (May 05, 2009 3:36 pm) My daughter has an 06 Sonata, replacing a 97 Camry, one of which we also had. My first impression was that it didn't measure up to the Camry and the ride was too stiff. I drove it again last week and didn't notice those things, except that the seat doesn't go back nearly far enough. She loves it, esp the V6. Performs well. Give the Genisis some time. I'll keep my wifes 03 Avalon with KYB GR2 struts and Energy sway bar bushings, and 31 MPG. Totally different car after the changes. Big change in feel when we replaced the standard 15" wheels with the 16? summer mags too. Fun now. Details in the Avalon forum.
#41 of 60 Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [choe13] by prema1 Jun 23, 2009 (2:32 pm)
Replying to: choe13 (Sep 22, 2008 5:38 pm) I was a life-long BMW driver. I had a 325, 328 and most recently a 330Ci. I was looking at upgrading to a BMW 550i, when I decided to test-drive a Lexus GS460.   I was totally blown away by the Lexus. Superior build quality, superior handling (with the standard active suspension on the GS460), better steering experience, much more intuitive user interface (I love the touch screen), and much more engaging styling inside and out (matter of taste but comparing them back to back, the BMW design seemed outdated).   I should comment more on the handling. I am a performance driver. I used to take my 330 to the track. What impressed me about BMW historically is that the suspension is good in almost every setting. Other cars are tuned either for comfort but don't corner well (Benz E500, Genesis) or for performance but give you a jarring ride on bumpy roads (Infiniti M45, Audi A6). BMW 550 has a great balance of comfortable but performance oriented ride. However the GS460 is much better. The cornering experience is much superior due to the active suspension which holds it flat in sports mode. You really feel like you can throw the car around and engage the curves. In comfort mode, the car deals with the bumpy city streets much better than the BMW without losing its basic sportiness. Coming from a BMW330Ci (one of BMWs best non-M cars) I was blown away by the Lexus driving experience compared to BMW.   The other factor was the electronics. I found the BMW iDrive totally distracting. In my old car tuning the satellite radio was really a pain. I love the intuitiveness of the Lexus touch screen. It's no iPhone, but to draw an analogy, the Lexus feels like using an iPhone while the BMW feels like using a Windows Mobile phone. They deliver almost the same functionality, but the Lexus system is so much easier and more pleasant to use.   The only downside with the Lexus is the factory tires are not as good as those on the 550 if the 550 comes with Pilotsport 2s. I just upgraded the tires on the Lexus to Michelin PilotSport 2s and that closed the gap. With these tires the Lexus is smooth, grippy (strikingly so in the rain) and has great road feel. Replies to this message: tayl0rd (Jul 06, 2009 12:02 pm)

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