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Sedans Hyundai Genesis Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series
60 messages, Last post on Sep 12, 2009 at 9:23 AM
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I drove both the GS350 and 535xi, and other cars in the segment and easily picked the 535xi which I was fairly confident I was going to pick earlier. M35x, although the 2nd best performer I drove (really enjoyed driving it), is still slightly behind the 535 in terms of performance, the build quality was also lacking in addition to a lack of split folding rear seats (kinda important to me, gives a huge increase in practicality), and not so great gas mileage. A6 looks nice, has a great interior (except for strange omission of auto steering wheel adjustment unless they changed that) and costs a bit less than the 535xi (only the A6 V6 version); but definitely exhibited more body roll in the corners than the 535xi and weaker overall performance The 535's engine is simply awesome, its a twin-turbo inline 6, with stronger performance than Audi's V8, and better fuel economy. And the cost advantage for the Audi only comes with the A6's V6 engine. MB E Class, forget about it, a joke, and it costs more than the 535, at least the Lexus has a price argument. Lexus GS350, sorry, no way. Its steering is numb compared to the 535xi, noticeably more body roll in the corners, and headroom seemed to be an issue. I don't really need to go into any more about it because if the performance is not there than the other stuff doesn't matter. For others though, this may not matter as much. Lexus and Mercedes Benz don't make cars that fit my idea of enjoyable driving. The 535 is a true sports sedan and I certainly can't say that about the GS350. The iDrive, while it could be a bit more intuitive, is not that bad, and is not a deal breaker by any stretch. In fact I don't mind it at all. And no, the cup holders were not even a consideration, haha. This is an honest opinion, no bias, if Lexus made a GS model like their own IS-F against the 535xi, then it would far more difficult. Although the 535 has sharp handling, excellent road feel, fantastic engine performance and efficiency, I must also mention that the ride quality is excellent. Nothing against the Genesis though, a friend of mine just got one. I would definitely get it over the GS and then buy a used Honda S2000 with the rest (maybe I'd need a bit more, but you get the point). After driving it though I can say that the 535's handling, cornering, and overall performance are quite a bit better. I like it, especially for the price. You've got to understand that the Genesis doesn't, and isn't trying to, compete with the 5 Series; compete with Lexus, yes, but BMW, no. I could go into even more details but its late so here it is summed up in 1 simple sentence. If you want a floaty, relaxed (I would say boring) ride take the Lexus, if you want to drive, get the BMW ...and I love to drive.
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Replying to: mobiusf1 (Mar 23, 2009 11:25 pm) The Genesis is not a sports sedan like the 535 and rather is a cruiser w/ a bit of sport (the only sedan that would come close to the 535 in driving dynamics would be the G8 GXP). I definitely would pick the Genesis over the E Class and GS350 (caveat: I haven't driven the new E Class and while it is supposed to be greatly improved, it's just too ugly for me to ever consider). Now, if BMW could just work on their styling - the new 7 was a disappointment (a bit too bland). |
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Replying to: mobiusf1 (Mar 23, 2009 11:25 pm) I found the Mercedes seats to be too hard. The Audi reminds me too much of a VW, just bland and the seats are sized on small end. I have not been able to find that perfect ergonomic position that suits me in any car but the 530. That said, I even tried the latest BMWs and I still prefer my 530. Oh, my dog loves it too. |
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 09, 2009 7:25 am) I am looking at the BMW 5 series 528/535 xi vs. the Lexus GS350AWD and the Acura TL. I have driven each and find them comparable--the BMW handles best but is most technologically deficient. It has a single CD, have to pay for a changer, no onboard HDD, no backup camera etc. So real world fuel economy--I assume Lexus or Acura gets better real world mileage then either Bimmer...would that be correct? Also--has anyone compared the Logic7 audio in the BMW to the Mark Levinson in the Lexus? Music is VERY important to me. I have an M35X which I can't WAIT to get rid of -- you can read about THAT in the Infiniti thread.....but I am down to these three choices.....drove the A6 and wasn't too impressed. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! |
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 04, 2009 4:29 pm) I have Logic7 and do not find it anything special, I heard that Mark Levinson is much better. As far as the total package goes, I find 535 the best in a class, GS does not come close and TL is in a different league. |
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 04, 2009 4:29 pm) Get the technology package with the 535 and you'll be happy enough. As for driving, don't let HP and speed fool you. Get that HP to the road is the trick and BMW does it better than any other automaker. Good luck with whatever you get. Stay away from Volvo.
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Replying to: nibs (Apr 05, 2009 3:45 am)
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 05, 2009 5:23 am) The new 5 comes with usb and aux in. Add the Nav, satellite, and bluetooth, what else is there? |
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 04, 2009 4:29 pm) |
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Replying to: art234 (Apr 05, 2009 5:23 am) I personally think that the GS and the TL isn't as good as the 5. My only concern with bmws is, reliability and electronics, my first impression has not been very nice. Other than that, no other sedan is as exciting, especially when you're in the drivers seat. There is 1 more car which is about the same size as the 5, only if you're interested, the Jaguar XF, I saw 1 today in white, and I have to say, amazing looking from the rear in white color. Looks a lot better than the current 5, and did you know that there will be a redesign 5 sometime this year. |
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