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Hyundai Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series

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test drive by gerrygerry
Oct 09, 2008 (5:59 pm)
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I drove the v6 for over 15 mins today n highway and winding roads in N NJ today. I felt the car bouncing on the Highway but was smoother on paved back roads. Not impressed enough to trade in my 2008 Honda Accord I4. The Accord is sportier and fun to drive!
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Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [choe13] by mmoreno1978
Oct 09, 2008 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: choe13 (Sep 22, 2008 5:38 pm)

You forgot about the Mercedes E-Class and Infiniti M.
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test drive gerrygerry by choe13
Oct 23, 2008 (8:45 pm)
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What do you mean bouncing?? The genesis and accord are completely different kind of cars. Accord doesn't compare.
 
If you have driven a fwd car it might take some time to get used to a rwd car and vice versa. But i'd say harder from fwd to rwd. People mistaken handing for steering response and usually fwd feel more like a toy driving turning in small corners but in high speeds takes more effort to handle. Going off tangent a bit but anywyas i didn't find the genesis bouncy at all for a car of its size. It does have softer suspension setting than the accord no doubt but i find it having a nice balance between ride and handling
 
I'm pretty much in the bag to get the genesis but also i want to test drive the coupe version (trade it in for a regular genesis later when i start a family then).
 
After driving the genesis i won't test out any other fwd car in its price range like the audi a6. No matter how nice the interior is and the prestiege behind an audi it will be a fwd. I have been high on mercedes cars(if i could ever afford it in this lifetime) , i just love alot of thigns about it, but the hyundai is definitely a good poor man version (did a better job than lexus, especially in terms of handling and overall design execution).
 
Believe it or not this car is really expensive in korea like 60 k here for a loaded v6 and i think ppl don't know u are getting a great deal in the states(to get the hyundai name rolling). The car is definitely sophisticated in engineering and have used high quality parts. My only wish is that , this car should had nothing to do with the hyundai badge
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Re: test drive gerrygerry [choe13] by carolinabob
Oct 24, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: choe13 (Oct 23, 2008 8:45 pm)

Read the reviews in October issues of Automobile magazine and Car and Driver regarding the ride and suspension. I noticed the same thing in all three that I test drove. Will it get worse as the car ages? Who knows at this point.
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Re: test drive [gerrygerry] by joe97
Oct 24, 2008 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: gerrygerry (Oct 09, 2008 5:59 pm)

V6 vs. I4
 
RWD vs. FWD
 
I know which one I'd pick - every time
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Re: test drive gerrygerry [carolinabob] by joe97
Oct 24, 2008 (8:12 pm)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Oct 24, 2008 8:53 am)

Didn't notice anything after driving both V6 and V8. The car is very responsive yet extremely quite. As for the ride, I would rate it between the 5er and the GS, firmer than the GS but softer than the 5 Series; in other words - balanced.
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Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [choe13] by reality2
Jan 02, 2009 (3:07 pm)
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Replying to: choe13 (Sep 22, 2008 5:38 pm)

Let me see, the A6 bares no comparision ...to Hyundai? Are you on crack? I'll put up an A6 4.2 V8 Quattro Sports and blow the Genesis out of the water. I'll put the A6 with its new amazing 3.0 Supercharged V6 and do the same. The A6 is one the most refined luxury automobiles in its class. Also, the Maxima is several classes below an A6 yet alone a premium and storied marquee like Audi itself. You really need to get a clue about Audi if you think Nissan is its competitor. The interior alone in the A6 wins hands down in the premium luxury class, not to mention the A6 outsells the 5-Series, E-Class, and GS globally without a problem. If you want we can add the V10 S6 as well for a comparison - the one that easily bested the M5 in recent reviews, or we can bring the new 580 bhp V10 RS6 from Europe and do some more comparisons if you like with world's fastest sedan and Avant. These are all A6s you know, and you are saying the Maxima is a competitor. I almost wet my pants laughing at such stupidity.
 
That said, I am not knocking the Genesis. I reviewed the Genesis at the LA Auto Show last November and walked away very impressed. I would buy the Genesis easily over an imitation premium brand like Lexus any day. And as a previous owner of 3 Hyundai Sonatas in my earlier years, I have always liked the brand. My Sonatas were very well built and reliable and contained plenty of luxury at the time. I would always choose a Hyundai over a Japanese competitor. I think Hyundai has done an oustanding job with the Genesis and created a luxury content laden vehicle with tremendous promise. So, yes, the Genesis is a luxury vehicle from the stand point of its content and build, but Hyundai is not a premium carmaker as of yet. The distinction is very important. Premium brands like Audi, MB, and BMW have decades if not a century (Audi and MB) as storied marquees who have contributed strongly to the evolution of the automobile and been at the forefront of motor sports. Premium is more than just having power windows, it is about a certain culture that the marquees has developed over decades and the subsquent following in technology, motor sports, evolution, design, and style. With the Genesis, Hyundai is on the right track, but it will take more than a just luxury laden car to do so. Eventually, Hyundai will have to challenge Audi, BMW, and MB on the race track, something Lexus cannot fathom to do.
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Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [reality2] by swixon
Jan 03, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: reality2 (Jan 02, 2009 3:07 pm)

Very well said! I have been trying to decide between the A6 and the Genesis both are great cars but the A6 is superior in so many ways as you so articulately explained.
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Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [reality2] by allmet33
Jan 05, 2009 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: reality2 (Jan 02, 2009 3:07 pm)

Okay...here's one for you...the Cadillac CTS-V beat the M5
 
09 CTS-V vs. 08 BMW M5 SMG
 
It's good that the premium makes have a racing tradition, but it doesn't necessarily equate to greatness. I mean...look at the respect that Acura isn't getting with it's racing heritage behind it. Hyundai actually does have a racing tradition, but it's in rally racing and the Tiburon that they race has been consistently at the top.
 
I'm glad to see someone that can really put it like it is in regards to the Genesis.
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Re: 2009 Genesis vs. Audi A6 vs. Lexus GS vs. BMW 5 series [swixon] by allmet33
Jan 05, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: swixon (Jan 03, 2009 8:35 am)

The Audi A6 may very well be superior to the Genesis in every way, however...a fully loaded Genesis 3.8 will run you about $37K out the door while the 4.6 version will ring up right at about $40K. That being said...buying the Genesis will save you anywhere between $10-26K. I just came from pricing out an A6 4.2 and once you get though paying for options like airbags, adaptive air suspension, Nav, leather driver side dashboard, 18" alloy wheels and power rear and side shades...the price is $60K+. $40K for a fully loaded Genesis 4.6 or $60+ for the A6 4.2? Hmmmmmmmm...I know what I could do with a cool $20K+!!!
 
Also, I don't know if Audi's reputation has gotten better in regards to their vehicles always being in the shop, but I've known a few Audi owners over the years and that was the one consistent complaint I heard. Don't beat me down, I'm not saying it's a problem...I'm just saying what I had heard.
 
At any rate...in terms of luxury feel, the Genesis is probably right up there with the A6, but in terms of driving dynamics, the Audi will truly outshine the Genesis on every level.

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