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To me... by lemko
Sep 26, 2008 (4:56 am)
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...Buick means a solid, durable, reliable, stately, conservative, sensible, understated, and luxurious car just a notch below Cadillac. I've been extremely happy with Buick ever since I bought my first car - a 1968 Buick Special Deluxe. Buick and Cadillac are the two cars I consistently purchase. If I didn't buy a Cadillac DTS Performance, I'd have most likely bought a Buick Lucerne CXS with the V-8.
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#80 of 83 Re: What about gas mileage? (nippononly) by hpmctorque
Sep 26, 2008 (7:23 am)
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"...What is its mission statement..."
 
Answer: "You pay what we pay, and not a penny more."
 
"I have lost all the Buick dealers in a 30-mile radius to bankruptcy in the last ten years - I have to cross two county lines now just to LOOK at a Buick."
 
Or, you can go to a nearby rental car agency.
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Re: #80 of 83 Re: What about gas mileage? (nippononly) [hpmctorque] by imidazol97
Sep 26, 2008 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 26, 2008 7:23 am)

>Or, you can go to a nearby rental car agencyj
 
That sounds like you're trying to diminish the brand by suggesting they are rental material...
 
 I can go to a car rental agency and see LOTS of brands of cars including Toyotas, Nissans, Chrysler products, Fords, Mazdas, etc.
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Re: #80 of 83 Re: What about gas mileage? (nippononly) (imidazol97) by hpmctorque
Sep 26, 2008 (8:32 am)
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I was just trying to be humorous in this instance. Cynicism can easily be misconstrued, so it's not your fault if you thought I was serious. Those who've been reading my messages know I want the Detroit 3 and their brands to survive.
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Re: #80 of 83 Re: What about gas mileage? (nippononly) (imidazol97) [hpmctorque] by imidazol97
Sep 26, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 26, 2008 8:32 am)

>Cynicism can easily be misconstrued,
 
Thank you for the explanation. I have trouble keeping track of who is pro GM and Anti GM and I didn't look back at your earlier posts like I should have done.
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Re: #80 of 83 Re: What about gas mileage? (nippononly) (imidazol97) [hpmcto by andre1969
Sep 26, 2008 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 26, 2008 8:32 am)

I know you were trying to be funny, but there actually is some merit in that suggestion! If nothing else, if you go to a rental car lot and check out the Buicks, you can get an idea of how well they're holding up to abuse.
 
My Dad's '03 Regal is a former rental. He's had it about 5 years now, and I don't think it's needed much other than routine maintenance. I think the front rotors got warped, but all cars seem to do that nowadays! He doesn't drive that far, though. I think it had about 19,500 miles on it when he bought it, but I doubt if he's up to 50,000 yet.
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Re: #80 of 83 Re: What about gas mileage? (nippononly) (imidazol97) [hpmcto [andre1969] by lemko
Sep 26, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 26, 2008 8:39 am)

To really see how well they hold up, come to Philly and check out my 20 year-old Park Avenue that is subjected daily to the harsh urban environment and potholed streets.
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Re: #80 of 83 Re: What about gas mileage? (nippononly) (imidazol97) [lemko] by andre1969
Sep 26, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Sep 26, 2008 8:46 am)

Lemko, in all fairness, that's because that car was well taken care of before you had it, and you probably take care of it better than the original owner!
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Re: What about gas mileage? [nippononly] by sls002
Sep 26, 2008 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 25, 2008 8:28 pm)

I had myself plus six (6) for a total of seven (7) people and their luggage for a trip of just over half an hour in the last month. I would not want to put that many in my SRX for very long though. The third seat is really meant for younger kids (say eighth grade or less), while I had younger adults (about 30 years old). The third seat is OK for 1 smallish adult for a short time I think.
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OK by nippononly
Sep 26, 2008 (9:02 am)
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so from cooter, I hear Buick's mission is to be "Understated luxury, just a notch below Cadillac."
 
From lemko, I hear something similar, but a whole lot more specific:
"Buick means a solid, durable, reliable, stately, conservative, sensible, understated, and luxurious car just a notch below Cadillac"
 
Do you feel that the Lacrosse meets all aspects of that definition? I don't find much luxury to be in evidence in that model. Beyond that, I can give it most of what lemko said, except in times of $4 gas I think "sensible" is in jeopardy when the most frugal engine available in a 5-seat car is a 22-24 mpg V-6.
 
In the larger picture, this is a pretty narrow niche folks are drawing for Buick. Is there even space in the market for this tiny little niche? Sales would seem to suggest otherwise.

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