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#419 of 440 Re: the more thing I think about it [nippononly]
Nov 27, 2009 (7:20 am)
Pics of the new S60 are out there.
Some are here http://www.leftlanenews.com/volvo-s60.html and I think edmunds has some too.
What we were told at a product update back a couple of months ago was that the new S60 will launch with a 300 hp version of the 280ish hp T6 currently in the S80/XC70/XC60. It will have AWD standard.
Later on I would expect the non-turbo version of that motor to come out with FWD and hopefully in the US we will get a four or five cylinder with direct injection similar to the Ecoboost setup ford has.
GM is launching the Regal the way I think Volvo should launch the S60 in this economic climate. Launch the car with the two more base engines first then bring out the top of the line motors later in the year.
#420 of 440 Re: the more thing I think about it [british_rover]
Nov 27, 2009 (9:47 am)
".....GM is launching the Regal the way I think Volvo should launch the S60 in this economic climate. Launch the car with the two more base engines first then bring out the top of the line motors later in the year. "
Even in this "gotta have it NOW, yesterday, if possible please" era we live in, it probably is smart to establish yourself, and then ratchet it up a notch. I would imagine that funds are tight right now. If they weren't I'll bet GM could've made a small fortune selling diesels from Europe last year, but the money to convert them to clean status in this country wasn't (and still isn't) there.
#421 of 440 saw my first lacrosse
Nov 27, 2009 (3:10 pm)
it looks great!
#423 of 440 Re: 2011 Regal Pricing.... [cooterbfd]
Jan 21, 2010 (1:33 pm)
I wonder how that thing's going to perform though, with only 182 hp? Maybe the 6-speed automatic will help.
A 4-cyl Regal almost sounds blasphemous. Base engine should at least be a 350!
#424 of 440 Re: 2011 Regal Pricing.... [andre1969]
Jan 21, 2010 (6:07 pm)
" Base engine should at least be a 350!"
I assume you're joking because, otherwise, how do you reconcile 350 with the government's fuel economy standards?
#425 of 440 Re: 2011 Regal Pricing.... [hpmctorque]
Jan 22, 2010 (7:16 am)
Well yeah, that whole 350 thing was a little joke. But I still think this new Regal should come with a standard engine that's a cut above the likes of the Malibu, Camry, Accord, Fusion, etc. And if it only has 182 hp standard, that's not really a cut above. Isn't the Accord's 4-cyl up to something like 192 hp these days?
#426 of 440 Re: 2011 Regal Pricing.... [hpmctorque]
Jan 22, 2010 (1:17 pm)
".....I assume you're joking because, otherwise, how do you reconcile 350 with the government's fuel economy standards? "
Well, we're old school. There is NO reconciling the government's FE with performance. I say reproduce the Stage 3 455, and FI the engine. Start with that, and move up from there.
#427 of 440 Re: 2011 Regal Pricing.... [cooterbfd]
Jan 23, 2010 (10:42 pm)
The Accord LX 4 cylinder has 177 hp and the EX has 190 so, you're right, the naturally aspirated Regal is a little weak by comparison. Of course, there are other factors, in addition to horsepower, to consider in a car comparison, but I also read that the rear seat leg room of the Regal will be rather tight. That would be two deficiencies that the Regal would have to compensate for, when compared with the Accord.
Now, unusual as it may seem, Buick has sometimes scored higher than Honda on reliability in the past couple of years, but I don't know just how (uh) reliable that information is. Besides, it's too early to know how reliable the Regal will be.
Could it be that the Regal will surprise us and outscore the Accord on handling, ride comfort or fuel economy? I suppose it's possible. The one area where the Regal may have an advantage is in styling. Based on the pictures I've seen, I like the Regal better than the Accord. I'd also vote for the Regal in terms of interior styling.
#428 of 440 Re: 2011 Regal Pricing.... [cooterbfd]
Jan 23, 2010 (10:45 pm)
How would these engines meet the government fuel economy standards?