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#399 of 440 Re: I can't get excited... [lemko]
Oct 27, 2009 (8:05 am)
I thought I was the only one:
17 - 89 Grand Marquis
20 - 98 Olds 88 (total lemon didn't last long 9 months)
21 - 2000 Toyota Solara (how'd that happen?)
21 - 79 Continental
23 - 89 Town Car
Now 31 and drive a Genesis after two Japanese Buicks (Avalons)
Love the big "boats" I took plenty of heat from my friends for my car choices. Would also love the idea of big RWD Buick, GM has the hardware to do it.
#400 of 440 Re: I can't get excited... [tjc78]
Oct 27, 2009 (9:26 am)
I don't care for the name "Special" because over the years, it was the least special of the Buicks when the name was in use. Having said that, I do like my red and white 1954 Buick Special and it is special to me.
#401 of 440 Re: Park Avenue [andre1969]
Oct 27, 2009 (10:15 am)
"...However, the Lucerne seemed to push the limits of the 3800, and and suffered a bit in both fuel economy and acceleration. If you went with the V-8, you got good performance, but a further hit to fuel economy, and you also got hit with a noticeable price increase."
The newer 3.9 may be a good compromise. Being a 60 degree V6, it should be smoother and more refined than the 90 degree 3800, even though the latter has balance shafts. It's probably a little quicker than the 3800 too, and less front end heavy than the V8. Don't know if the 3.9 is as rugged as the 3800, though.
#402 of 440 Re: I can't get excited... [andre1969]
Oct 27, 2009 (4:20 pm)
How about Skylark?
#403 of 440 Re: I can't get excited... [berri]
Oct 27, 2009 (4:37 pm)
Skylark? The worst Buick of the last 20 years? Are you kidding?
#404 of 440 Re: I can't get excited... [nippononly]
Oct 27, 2009 (4:43 pm)
But in the 60's and 70's they were some of the sharpest coupes and convertibles on the road. Also a great combo of luxury and sport. You're right about the X car version however! When you think about it, GM pretty much wrecked every great, classic brand name they had. Talk about lost intangible goodwill assets from their balance sheet.
#405 of 440 Re: I can't get excited... [berri]
Oct 28, 2009 (2:42 am)
I think the X-car version shows just how much equity the Skylark name had at the time! The X-car Skylark was dropped after 1985, a year it still managed to sell around 90,000 units. Yet the name carried on, used for the N-body, from 1986 on up through around 1996-97 (these cars persisted for a year or two as fleet-only models along with the Olds Achieva, after being dropped from general public availability). In contrast, the Citation name was retired completely after 1985, and the Phoenix and Omega had the plug pulled after 1984!
I don't know if the Skylark really was built better than the other X-cars, or maybe it just appealed to an older clientele that maintained them better, but somehow it more or less side-stepped the bad rap that the other X-es had.
Still, I just don't care for the name anymore. To me, it's one of those names that sounds great on an old 50's or 60's car, but it just has more of a nostalgic ring to it, that seems out of place on a modern car. It's kinda like seeing a hot, sexy young supermodel or stripper, and then finding out later that her name is Audrey or Myrtle or Ethel.
For some reason, I always thought the name "Skyhawk" was good...if not the car the name ended up on.
#406 of 440 Re: Park Avenue [hpmctorque]
Oct 28, 2009 (2:49 am)
Yeah I think the 3.9 might be a bit better-suited to the Lucerne. I think it's EPA-rated at 17/26, while the Lucerne's 3.8 was rated at 16/25 using the new rating system (19/28 under the old). And it has a bit more power...227 hp versus around 195. I forget the torque specs, but it's better there, too.
As for durability, I haven't heard anything bad about these newer 3.5/3.9 engines. The old 2.8/3.1/3.4 tended to blow head gaskets, and they also went through a rash of plastic intake manifold problems, but I don't think those traits have been engineered out, with the newer engines.
Oct 28, 2009 (4:26 am)
Drove a Park A up to 200,000 miles and donated it to our office janitor in very good mechanical condition. Now own a Regal which just hit 200,000 miles and runs well.
Just tested(rented for 2 days) the new LaCross and loved the ride, not crazy about the blind spots but nice automobile. Not sure I'm jumping on this one!
Drivetrains on my old Buicks were flawless....That said, I did have plenty of issues with power options, windows/door locks and such.
I kind of liked my Buicks!!!!!!
#408 of 440 Re: I can't get excited... [andre1969]
Oct 28, 2009 (4:35 am)
Ugh!!! The Skyhawk was the WORST car to wear the Buick tri-shield! I'd like to find the guys who green-lighted the Skyhawk and make like Jigsaw on them!
Anybody remember the Buick Apollo? That name might've meant something back in the late '60s / early '70s with the NASA moon landing missions of the same name. The Buick Apollo was nothing but a Nova clone anyway.